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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    So in the space of what you claim Zimmer can you find any evidence?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What did it for me was the rules...and the lack of ability of some of my math professors to be able to explain the rules. For example...a negative x a negative = a positive. OK...but WHY?
    (and even though my professor couldnt answer the question, I did...had to write a paper on it...and that is the ONLY way I passed algebra three in college)(and BTW...the answer was found not in math but in electronics theory and design...who knew???)
    I was a navy electronics tech, did 9 months of A school and another 9 months of B school. I remember negative numbers, J factors, etc. but again, NEVER used it on the job.
    IMO, knowing why is too often knowing too much...if you can USE knowledge to good effect, you make progress. Mathemiticans who know all the whys, proofs, derivations, etc. have their place, but most of us only need to know how to use it, like a tool.
    I took first year calculus from a mathematician, hated it, barely got thru it. It took an engineer friend to help me get thru it. Ivory tower professors are much less effective at teaching than people who actually use the knowledge every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I was a navy electronics tech, did 9 months of A school and another 9 months of B school. I remember negative numbers, J factors, etc. but again, NEVER used it on the job.
    IMO, knowing why is too often knowing too much...if you can USE knowledge to good effect, you make progress. Mathemiticans who know all the whys, proofs, derivations, etc. have their place, but most of us only need to know how to use it, like a tool.
    I took first year calculus from a mathematician, hated it, barely got thru it. It took an engineer friend to help me get thru it. Ivory tower professors are much less effective at teaching than people who actually use the knowledge every day.
    Well...some of those design engineers struggled a bit expalining how identical circuitry could operate different ways using the same 'laws'...but I fully agree...I have learned far more from professors that have practical experience than book and classroom educated professors that can discuss the hell out of theory but have no ability when it comes to real world application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...some of those design engineers struggled a bit expalining how identical circuitry could operate different ways using the same 'laws'...but I fully agree...I have learned far more from professors that have practical experience than book and classroom educated professors that can discuss the hell out of theory but have no ability when it comes to real world application.
    Agree...but back on topic, how many of us are a little overweight and get told by a FAT DOCTOR to exercise more?
    When I see an obese dietician touting healthy living on TV, I get a laugh out of it.
    And if we ate all the servings suggested on the food pyramid, we would really need that exercise...
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    Agree...but back on topic, how many of us are a little overweight and get told by a FAT DOCTOR to exercise more?
    When I see an obese dietician touting healthy living on TV, I get a laugh out of it.
    And if we ate all the servings suggested on the food pyramid, we would really need that exercise...
    True...that was the military way (weigh?). Who were the ones that werent subject to the weight standards? Doctors and unit commanders. Oh wait...they really were...wink wink...

    I cant tell you the number of athletes I had working for me that ahd to go to the dancing bear programs that were far more fit and had far lower body fat percentages than the admin officer they had to report to each week.

    And hasnt it already been pretty firmly established that the food pyramid was just that...a pyramid scheme introduced by the farmers unions way back when?

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    True...that was the military way (weigh?). Who were the ones that werent subject to the weight standards? Doctors and unit commanders. Oh wait...they really were...wink wink...

    I cant tell you the number of athletes I had working for me that ahd to go to the dancing bear programs that were far more fit and had far lower body fat percentages than the admin officer they had to report to each week.

    And hasnt it already been pretty firmly established that the food pyramid was just that...a pyramid scheme introduced by the farmers unions way back when?
    I think the reason catholics eat fish on friday was an effort to help the fishing industry...damn politics is everywhere...
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    geometry?
    what part of designing an ordinary house involves oddball shapes? Trig, yes, but geometry?
    I designed our last 2 houses...using only basic arithmetic.
    Furniture crafting, landscaping, plumbing. . .
    Anytime you have to find the angle, location, volume, displacement, area.

    Geometry has a huge variety of formulas and so on - I'm sure you use it and don't realize it.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Agree...but back on topic, how many of us are a little overweight and get told by a FAT DOCTOR to exercise more?
    When I see an obese dietician touting healthy living on TV, I get a laugh out of it.
    And if we ate all the servings suggested on the food pyramid, we would really need that exercise...
    Generally, dieticians give out bad diet advice. And I guess they must eat what the recommend.

    Another thing is nurses who are very overweight. I see three different types of doctors a couple of times a year, and almost all of the nurses are overweight at the offices. They have to know what they are supposed to be eating. I guess like most Americans they don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think the adults in my classes (like me - or older) are a good example of the mindset about overall education - I shall quote Betty (she's in her 60's) - we're taking developmental algebra together, "I don't know why they're teaching us this crap - it's not like we're going to use it ever."

    Jade from my Art History Class, "This class is a waste of time, I don't need to learn about art-history."

    Ashton from my Law Class - who refused to buy any of his books, he's content with getting C's in all his classes and graduating as a mediocre student into the health industry, "I know this should be important but I really don't give a damn."

    My law teachers, Mr Ray, "I really don't care much about teaching this subject, you all should have a good handle on it by now, so we won't really discuss it." (He was referring to chapters 2, 3, 4, 6 - concerning Ethics and Constitutional Law in Business Contracts and related legalities.)

    Why - even in conversations WITH my husband - am I one of the FEW people (in my life) that values a well rounded and solid education?

    Like Betty - she's back IN SCHOOL and she's a Grandma. Why? Because of her attitude - she never DID care about education and still doesn't - she's only taking classes because she needs something to put towards a new job.

    And now - with all the employment issues in the country going on - many people who HAVE degrees are finding they still can't find jobs with them. Why this is - I have no clue - because I was always told that 'any degree is a good degree' and now that's no longer true. WHAT degree you get matters significantly - but tell that to an 18 or 19 year old who has that "I dont' actually care" attitude about work, education and their future.
    I have always loved to learn... lol. I guess I am a geek, but I have always liked history, western civ, natural sciences, and philosophy. I can speak two languages, and a some others conversationally.. I never understood why some people freak out in this country when it's mentioned that children should study Spanish. LOL.

    I can understand it from the older generations POV.. and it should not be a job requirement for anybody, but it's a second language. It will only help the children to learn it..

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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