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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    Geez...how many people here are young enough to remember a time with no internet??? And I dont mean due to a power outage...

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    Actually I know a LOT of people that thought the "just say no" campaign was as mindless and politically motivated as the one under discussion. I was as well...and have said as much here (tho there were strangely no threads available during the JSN campaign...)

    Geez...how many people here are young enough to remember a time with no internet??? And I dont mean due to a power outage...
    It's funny. I was just talking about the days before the internet with someone. What did we do? We went out to play.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    It happens- when it happens it's preceeded by an impartial quote-tag that gets tagged into the post

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    Nancy Reagan couldn't do anything without being bitched about. Hillary Clinton was bitched about for HillaryKare, first by the right, then by the left after they got demolished in the midterms. Then she got really, really quiet and went back to baking cookies and boning up on those 900 raw FBI files of political enemies.

    That's Japan and SK. We aren't Japan and SK; our cultures are vastly different, and we know what doesn't work. If it works for them... Yipppeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Our federal government has overseen the demise of our school system for 4 decades. The correlation couldn't be clearer. Send it back the the states and their localities. Smaller, more accountable places; you know... places no bigger than Japan or SK. Let them run their experiments, let them compete... because the feds have instituted catastrophic failure.

    The Carter education scheme has had the same effect as the damn food pyramid. Disaster.

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    You see Zimmer there is no "clear correlation" though just what you want to blindly believe. You give no real proof. Nearly every single country in the world that ranks higher than United States in terms of education has one central department, the rest at the very least have a central delegation. So try again.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post

    You see Zimmer there is no "clear correlation" though just what you want to blindly believe. You give no real proof. Nearly every single country in the world that ranks higher than United States in terms of education has one central department, the rest at the very least have a central delegation. So try again.
    Let's see, the DoE is set up in 79, and education/literacy slides... no correlation.

    I posted the demise in literacy; never mind. The DoE is a gem that needs more money and polishing

    Reagan should have shut it down and returned control to the states.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Let's see, the DoE is set up in 79, and education/literacy slides... no correlation.

    I posted the demise in literacy; never mind. The DoE is a gem that needs more money and polishing

    Reagan should have shut it down and returned control to the states.

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    In 2007, according to the Trends in Mathematics and Science Study (TMSS), the US was the 3rd most improved country in the world in math between 1995-2007. No sliding there.

    Also, issues surrounding the 77% high school graduation rate (lower than most developed countries) is caused by many factors. I'd like to see some conclusive evidence that it is the Department of Education's fault.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In 2007, according to the Trends in Mathematics and Science Study (TMSS), the US was the 3rd most improved country in the world in math between 1995-2007. No sliding there.

    Also, issues surrounding the 77% high school graduation rate (lower than most developed countries) is caused by many factors. I'd like to see some conclusive evidence that it is the Department of Education's fault.
    I think the biggest factor is parental involvement (lack of) and an lack of overall give-a-damn about education.

    I was at nationmaster looking into various rates - interesting stuff.
    Student attitude about school:

    % of Students who find school boring: Japan: 32% / / United States: 61%
    % of Students who dislike school: Japan: 25% / / United States: 35%
    Reported level of classroom disorder: Japan: 17% / / United States: 28%
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think the biggest factor is parental involvement (lack of) and an lack of overall give-a-damn about education.

    I was at nationmaster looking into various rates - interesting stuff.
    Student attitude about school:

    % of Students who find school boring: Japan: 32% / / United States: 61%
    % of Students who dislike school: Japan: 25% / / United States: 35%
    Reported level of classroom disorder: Japan: 17% / / United States: 28%
    As a person with teachers in the family and knowing a bit about this new age of ignorance by our youth, I have to agree
    that the curriculum part of our system is out of whack. My own kids, ages 38 and 40, remind me occasionally that much of what I know is no longer usefull. And the grandkids? They think I might have voted for George Washington. REALLY, the 8 year old grandson said that.
    When you make kids learn information that stopped being useful 40 years ago, they resent it. In one generation, mine, that has happened at least once. In current generations, it is happening in a shorter time frame.
    The DOE should be smaller and more agile and TRY to keep up with things...
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It's funny. I was just talking about the days before the internet with someone. What did we do? We went out to play.
    And we had to walk uphill to get to the playgrounds. Both ways. In the snow!

    Hell...I still remember the day they turned on MTV...and when MTV actually showed music videos!

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