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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    At least we now know that Chris Christie will be on the short list as her VP running mate in 2012.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I don't know who is contributing to the hype on Palin more, conservatives or liberals. Seems to be a dead heat these days.

    Just stop already.
    Its impossible for stupid people to stop. No amount of asking would work.

    On a more serious note: I cannot remember the last time I had not seen a President or his wife do something to try and reduce obesity. Whether it was Bush running so that other American's would pick up on exercising or Clinton making jokes about going to the Doctor and reading his results to the public, etc. This is not a beginning of something new, it is something that has been repeated by every administration since I can remember. Which includes three leaders. So really it isn't about government getting off our backs because they have been off in the first place.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    There is no responsibility for society. We have no responsibility for what others decide to do, only what we do and choose to do. This is exactly your problem, you think we are all connected and must care for each other and that is why society exists. Society exists for the individual and what they can get out of the society, not what the society can get out of each other.
    This is the comment that stood out to me and is the failure of the positions of folks like you. Of course we are all connected. Like or not, what I do has an impact on others and what others do has an impact on me. Whether we have responsibility for society or not is debatable, but we do not live in a vacuum. Society and the individual exist together.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    At least we now know that Chris Christie will be on the short list as her VP running mate in 2012.
    Anything to get him out of NJ is OK with me.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is the comment that stood out to me and is the failure of the positions of folks like you. Of course we are all connected. Like or not, what I do has an impact on others and what others do has an impact on me. Whether we have responsibility for society or not is debatable, but we do not live in a vacuum. Society and the individual exist together.
    Yeah but you cannot expect for a rich(financially) father to be supporting all of John Doe's basterd children because he has the inability of keeping his penis in his pants. We are all responsible for our actions and we benefit greatly when we interact with one another. But not when one side is trying to screw the other.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, ok, so how do I say he is a hypocrite in this kind of thread and not break the rules? Can I just not point it out? If that is so, can I point out that Roland Martin is a hypocrite? .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Yeah but you cannot expect for a rich(financially) father to be supporting all of John Doe's basterd children because he has the inability of keeping his penis in his pants. We are all responsible for our actions and we benefit greatly when we interact with one another. But not when one side is trying to screw the other.
    That's an overgeneralization. The thought that the rich should support ALL the poor is just as absurd as suggesting that each of us has ZERO responsibility to our the society in which we live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's an overgeneralization. The thought that the rich should support ALL the poor is just as absurd as suggesting that each of us has ZERO responsibility to our the society in which we live.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    "And I know I'm going to be again criticized for bringing this up, but instead of a government thinking that they need to take over and make decisions for us according to some politician or politician's wife priorities, just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."
    She's talking about liberty. There's nothing stupid about that.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand all the talk about lost liberty or "government taking over and making decisions for us" as Palin put it. AFAICT, this initiative is set up in a way that allows the government to educate instead of dictate, and IMO that's exactly the kind of role the government should be playing in social issues like this. I only know of two requirements in this initiative that would remotely resemble lost liberties for citizens or businesses:

    - $1 billion/yr tax increase to help provide more nutritious school lunches.
    - Require nutrition information to be easily readable on the front of the package.

    Again, maybe I'm missing something.

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