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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    There is an obvious difference between the Obamas and fat lazy kids and you people know it. Quit acting like you don't.

    Like I said what is wrong with her telling kids not to be fat? I'm sure Palin has no qualms with "socialist/marxist/godless" programs like this thing they got in high school called "Home-Ec".
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    You know, just because someone's paying for your healthcare doesn't mean you're healthy. You're still responsible for preventing yourself from turning into a cancerous diabetic lardass, and you're the one who has to live with yourself if you do.
    That is YOUR choice. People make all kinds of personal choices that are detrimental to health, but inserting government into the equation to try to un-fat the fatties isn't going to work. In fact THE GOVERNMENT MADE THE PROBLEM WORSE with their ****ing Food Pyramid.

    The government, that cancerous growth, can go to hell with telling people how to live their lives. Let me ask you... you think weed should be legalized? My bet is you'd say yes. Decriminalize it? If so, you're a hypocrite.

    And nobody touched the following with a 50-foot pole...

    Obesity is trivial when compared to HIV/AIDS. So when are we going to have an education program in schools and over the public airwaves about the dangers of homosexuality? When is the government going to assemble and empower the Sex Police to ensure people are using their sex pistols in the proper manner? You see, (using your sentence above) you're responsible for ensuring you don't become a threat to society with the weapon hanging between you legs. This hasn't happened, and HIV/AIDS has severe consequences. Obesity only harm that individual; not HIV/AIDS. And fatties need only go on a diet to change. Those infected with HIV are stuck with that condition and are a potential threat to others until they croak.

    I can think of a whole lot of things we can do to ensure a healthier life. Here's a few:
    There were 6 million auto accidents in 1999. About 40,000+ die annually... so... I propose:
    No driving from sunset to sunrise and a 30 mph speed limit.

    There were 37,000 alcohol related deaths in 2007.
    17.6 million are alcoholics or have alcohol related problems...so...
    Ban alcohol.

    Over 1 million Americans have HIV/AIDS.
    No sex before 21 and then only after you've had an official certificate of clean health from the government, and then only with a condom.

    Ban homosexuality for males; the anus isn't designed to take a unit, and it's 600 times more likely you'll get HIV vs. a vagina.

    Enforce sodomy laws.

    Nobody is allowed to open a business; the stress levels of having to deal with an overbearing government might do too much damage.

    So.........................

    Everyone to the potato fields. Leave the pin heads in DC (no state governments) tell us how to live our lives.

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    And pie

    Can't forget the pie - Obama loves the pie.

    But he rides a bike.
    Obama still rides. He's been bare-backing the nation for about 22-months.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There IS but one answer to resolve the problem of obesity. Let em die.

    OK...I KNOW that sounds harsh...but hear me out...

    The more we do FOR people the less they do for THEMSELVES. History has proven that to be factual. With all the government giveaway programs we have we dont have LESS dependent people we have MORE. The honest and HELPFUL answer is to tell people to start by damn doing for themselves. YES people are going to struggle and suffer and yes there would have to be MASSIVE changes in the way we provide community services (volunteer charity with the expectation of success and progress and EFFORT by the recipient) but in the long run it will HELP not hurt or hinder.

    I know...I know...its cruel. Its mean. Its heartless. Meanwhile...we continue to experience greater problems...not because we dont help ENOUGH. Because we do too much.

    Slogans dont help. New government programs dont help. The "Move It" prgram is going to be as effective as the last program...its NOT. But dang it will make us all feel good about ourselves.
    So encouragement... yes?

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The only one reckless is M. Obama and her total hypocrisy. For Thanksgiving the Obama's had something like 9 different kinds of pies and I saw no mention of any of them being sugar free or nonfat.
    Thanksgiving is once a year. Nutritional experts will tell you the occasional splurge won't lead to obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Every time the Obama's are shown on vacation almost every month, we see pictures of them taken eating Ice cream and it's never reported that it is sugar and fat free, because it's not.
    Once again, those are vacations... as in periods meant for relaxation and/or a break from the routine. You can catch a quick glimpse of the Presidents diet here or you can look to what their children eat at school:

    Snacks like zucchini bread or apples and cheese
    French Dip with Au Jus
    Chicken Fajitas
    Spicy Organic Black Bean Tortillas
    Yellow Rice
    Roasted Veggie Melts
    Steamed Broccoli
    Cinnamon Orange Slices
    Source

    Even if the Obama parents consume fatty foods at a pace higher than others, everyone should be expected to identify and eat based off their own capacity (by that I mean particular notice of one's metabolism). If the Obama's can eat the type of food you've highlighted (and not gain an ounce) there's nothing wrong (or hypocritical) about encouraging better eating habits for those who have body types that struggle with the consumption load. There's a lot of talk about personal responsibility in this thread, so it would be backwards to claim that the Obama's aren't taking responsibility if they have identified how often they can get away with consuming not-so-healthy products. Everyone is different, so it's silly to assume the Obama's must provide some sort of holistic diet for every body type out there.

    You figure it out, then you consume accordingly (generally speaking).

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    I think the Obama's should list every item they shove down their gullets.
    In fact, we should demand it.

    We are paying for them, their health care, their food... so it is OUR concern. Living off our dime, and our paying their health care, we have the right to know every frigg'in thing they shove down their yaps.

    For the good of the nation, and so we can monitor and scrutinize their habits. To me... Michelle looks a wee bit too fat. Could it be her diet? How can we know if she isn't forthcoming? We could give her some pointers. Perhaps she's consuming too many carbs and ought to ingest more meat.

    It's time for them to put up or shut up. More importantly, we need to know how many fags Obama sticks in his face daily and the brand.

    It's not so much what you eat, but how much; and there are some foods that keep you filled up for longer periods. It's simple math really... if you burn "X" calories daily and you consume "X" + "Y" + "Z, you're going to gain weight. If you want to lose weight, instead of eating something, have a cup of water; it's not rocket science, and it's none of Obama's business how much, or what we consume, so long as it's a legal foodstuff.

    Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/1...sor/index.html

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    Like I said what is wrong with her telling kids not to be fat? .
    It's none of their business. That's why. None... of... their... business.
    Further, they are stigmatizing fatties, and kids being kids, now have grounds to pester the fatties because Mommy Dearest says they're a problem.

    Jerk: Hey Fatty
    Fatty: I'm telling the teacher
    Jerk: Go'head, The One's ride said you're a problem fool. Ain't you bin listen'in?

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I think the Obama's should list every item they shove down their gullets.
    In fact, we should demand it.

    We are paying for them, their health care, their food... so it is OUR concern. Living off our dime, and our paying their health care, we have the right to know every frigg'in thing they shove down their yaps.

    For the good of the nation, and so we can monitor and scrutinize their habits. To me... Michelle looks a wee bit too fat. Could it be her diet? How can we know if she isn't forthcoming? We could give her some pointers. Perhaps she's consuming too many carbs and ought to ingest more meat.

    It's time for them to put up or shut up. More importantly, we need to know how many fags Obama sticks in his face daily and the brand.

    It's not so much what you eat, but how much; and there are some foods that keep you filled up for longer periods. It's simple math really... if you burn "X" calories daily and you consume "X" + "Y" + "Z, you're going to gain weight. If you want to lose weight, instead of eating something, have a cup of water; it's not rocket science, and it's none of Obama's business how much, or what we consume, so long as it's a legal foodstuff.

    Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds

    Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds - CNN.com


    It's none of their business. That's why. None... of... their... business.
    Further, they are stigmatizing fatties, and kids being kids, now have grounds to pester the fatties because Mommy Dearest says they're a problem.

    Jerk: Hey Fatty
    Fatty: I'm telling the teacher
    Jerk: Go'head, The One's ride said you're a problem fool. Ain't you bin listen'in?

    .
    So then are you telling me that schools that dont sell pop or anything at all should mind their own business and sell as much sugar and bull**** as they want to our kids? Are you seriously offended by Michelle Obama doing something like this or are you just drawing a straw from anywhere you can get it? What you are saying is stupid and asinine.

    Laura Bush started an inititative to educate women on their health particularly on how to prevent heart disease. HOW DARE SHE TELL OUR WOMEN HOW TO BE HEALTHIER. IF I WANT TO KEEP FEEDING MY MOM AND GRANDMA GRAVY FRIES AND DEEP FRIED TWINKIES GODDAMNIT IM GOING TO DO IT IM AMERICAN **** HEART DISEASE.

    She also started inititatives encouraging kids to read and read specific kinds of books when they begin reading as they are growing. HOW DARE SHE TRY TO TELL AMERICA'S CHILDREN WHAT TO READ. WHY? SO SHE COULD BRAINWASH OUR KIDS! I'M DISGUSTED. IF I WANT MY KIDS READING HUSTLER AND WATCHING SPONGEBOB UNTIL THEIR BRAINS ROT THATS MY DEAL SHE NEEDS TO STAY OUT MY LIFE.
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    I saw the actual show, your statement is idiotic. You're just revealing your true lean, and proving me correct about that. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post

    How many poor fish have been tortured just for some catch and release.

    or fillet and eat?

    Don't quote someone else and put my name on it.....I look bad enough on my own...
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    It's not you guys - it's the forum script.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Smokers and overweight people should just pay higher premiums, if they don't already. That might be incentive enough to quit and lose weight if it means your premiums go down.
    I've got news for you - smokers are actually funding healthcare for uninsured children (S-CHIP) and helping to keep state governments and the federal government running. In reality, if it weren't for smokers, our economy would be in an even worse mess than it already is.

    Government Gets Hooked on Tobacco Tax Billions
    A growing reliance by the states and federal government on cigarette taxes — as well as a popular proposal to increase federal taxes by 61 cents to an even $1 per pack to finance the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, S-chip — provide a sort of insurance policy for the continued survival of menthol cigarettes.

    The National Conference of State Legislatures reported last month that states were facing combined budget deficits of more than $40 billion in 2009. Raising cigarette taxes is one way some states are trying to make up the shortfall. In 2007, states collected more than $19 billion in cigarette taxes

    The federal government, meantime, collects nearly $7 billion annually in cigarette excise taxes
    and would have raised those taxes, effective this year, but for the presidential veto of the S-chip legislation, which House Democrats have said is near the top of their agenda for next year.

    Omar Little’s hometown, Baltimore, does not collect city taxes on cigarettes, but some municipalities do, for a total of up to $600 million a year.

    But taxes are not the only government revenue from cigarettes. Settlements in the late 1990s to end state lawsuits against tobacco companies mean that the cigarette industry is paying states nearly $250 billion over 25 years. Under the agreement, those payments to states will continue flowing even beyond 25 years as long as the tobacco industry is healthy. But the payments would phase out as cigarette company profits decline and would ultimately disappear if people stop smoking.

    All the states are counting on that settlement money for years to come, but losing it would be a particular problem for 17 states that have borrowed against their tobacco settlement money by issuing tobacco securitization bonds.
    Bottom line? You'd better hope people keep smoking, 'cause we'd be in a world of hurt without them.

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