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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

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    And then, since you are big on personal responsibility, you will, of course turn yourself in for assault, right?
    Yes, and I'll turn you in for robbery.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    Holy crap.

    The fact that even ONE person thanked this post is disturbing.
    Clearly you don't understand Korimirs politics. I may not even like his point of view sometimes but I have yet to see him be hypocritical or stray from his beliefs.

    The true fact of the matter is, if society refuses to take care of themselves, you end up between a rock and a hard place. If society refuses to change, and continues down this gluttenous, greedy and quite frankly self destructive path, what solutions can there be? The obesity crisis shows no signs of stopping or curbing... what can we do?

    Now believe me, I'm certainly not in favour of approaches from either extreme side of the spectrum... one, is to let people just carry on as usual, and the other extreme is state mandated diet.

    I do not support either of these, but Korimir does have a good point unfortunately, at the end of the day, it is a viable solution, just one that has enourmous potential for abuse, but no more so then handing over out entire food supply to private industry, which in the last 50 years has ****ed us over big time. If you knew how your food was made, and proccessed and the chemicals in it, you'd never ever ever eat again.

    Michelle Obama's approach is tempered and moderate. Simply promoting healthier eating.

    No Harm No Foul, perhaps doesn't go far enough, and if results aren't seen in the future, Korimirs solution may be the only one we have left.

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I haven't read the entire thread, so I am confused..

    Do those of you siding with Palin 100%, think NOTHING should be done about childhood obesity?

    I haven't read anything to the contrary, but I thought I'd ask and give the benefit of the doubt.
    Here are my thoughts on the topic:

    People are fat because they CHOOSE to be. Everyone knows that broccoli is good for you and Cheetos aren't. We don't need to be educated on healthy choices. It's common sense.

    It's not the federal government's job to say "Hey, you really should eat healthy and exercise for the betterment of yourself." NAAAAHHH, REALLY? Gee, I wouldn't have known that if some beaurocrat hadn't told me. Spending millions and billions of dollars on programs to ENCOURAGE eating healthy is a waste of money, IMHO. People are already aware of what is healthy and what isn't. It's a matter of CHOICE.

    Now then, I do agree that schools should serve healthy food. There doesn't need to be soda machines or vending machines of any kind at school. The school lunch should be healthy and not loaded with carbs like most school lunches I've seen are. However, I'll give you a dollar if you can get more then 10% of third graders to eat their peas on their tray.

    I'm also a HUGE advocate for health education in schools: weighing in, physical tests, P.E. structured more toward fitness than playing games, etc.


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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, lots of folks can't stand him. The good thing about him not leaving is that we get to vote him out of office in 2013.
    He might leave in 2013, but not because he was voted out. If he turns your state around he'll be voted in for as long as he wants to stay.
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Yes, and I'll turn you in for robbery.
    That's IF I took your fries. I don''t take fries. You may just be assuming that I am, so your assault would be without provocation.

    Btw... why fries? How about turkey since it IS Thanksgiving.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I was responding to this
    In addition, the plan features Fat Panels who will decide if Granny is thin enough to live.

    I don't want the GOVERNMENT to be concerned with what my BMI index is from year to year.
    It's not their job. It's between me and my doctor.
    Who knows if a few yrs down the road when HC is rationed, granny will be refused treatment because of her BMI?
    Actually, that's never gonna happen because we kicked Dems asses this year and we'll do it again in 2012.
    It's just going to be a pain in the ass repealing all this nanny state crap.
    Granny #1 is 200 pounds over weight, smokes unfiltered Lucky Strikes at the rate of a pack a day, buys 2 cases of beer every week, and goes to the smorgasbord once a week for "all you can eat fried food fiesta".
    Granny #2 is normal weight for her age, never smoked, doesn't drink, and eats a reasonable diet.

    They both need a heart transplant or they die within the next 6 weeks. They are both a match for the heart that just came into the system.

    Who gets it? I think the doctors will decide, and will pick Granny $2. See, we alrealdy have death panels.....real ones, not this fiction that Princess Palin talks about, but a real panel of real doctors...
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    He might leave in 2013, but not because he was voted out. If he turns your state around he'll be voted in for as long as he wants to stay.
    If he keeps going the way he's going, he'll get voted out. The only folks who really like him are those on the far right who he panders to. Only reason why he won was that Corzine was too stupid to step away and let someone less corrupt, run (which in Corzine's case could be anyone on the planet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I haven't read the entire thread, so I am confused..

    Do those of you siding with Palin 100%, think NOTHING should be done about childhood obesity?

    I haven't read anything to the contrary, but I thought I'd ask and give the benefit of the doubt.
    I personally think Mrs. Obama is a bit over zealous in try to get people to eat healthier. Palin agrees.here's the down low of how the govt is going to force this down our thraots and make decisions for us:

    from http://www.letsmove.gov/pdf/TaskForc...FullReport.pdf


    Summary of Recommendations cont

    Recommendation 5.1: Developers of local school wellness policies should be encouraged to include strong physical activity components, on par with nutrition components.

    Recommendation 5.2: The President’s Challenge should be updated to ensure consistency with the Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans and to ensure ease of use and implementation by schools. Private sector partners with an interest in physical activity should help enroll children in the Presidential Active Lifestyle Award program

    Recommendation 5.3: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to increase the quality and frequency of sequential, age- and developmentally- appropriate physical education for all students, taught by certified PE teachers

    Recommendation 5.4: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to promote recess for elementary students and physical activity breaks for older students, and provide support to schools to implement recess in a healthy way that promotes physical activity and social skill development.

    Recommendation 5.5: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to provide opportunities in and outside of school for students at increased risk for physical inactivity, including children with disabilities, children with asthma and other chronic diseases, and girls

    Recommendation 5.6: Federal, state, and local educational agencies, in partnership with communities and businesses, should work to support programs to extend the school day, including afterschool programs, which offer and enhance physical activity opportunities in their programs

    Recommendation 5.7: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to support interscholastic sports and help decrease prohibitive costs of sports by curbing practices such as “pay-to-play,” working with other public and private sector partners.

    Recommendation 5.8: Reauthorize a Surface Transportation Act that enhances livability and physical activity.

    Recommendation 5.9: The Environmental Protection Agency should assist school districts that may be interested in siting guidelines for new schools that consider the promotion of physical activity, including whether students will be able to walk or bike to school

    Recommendation 5.10: Communities should be encouraged to consider the impacts of built environment policies and regulations on human health.

    Recommendation 5.11: The Federal Safe Routes to School Program (SRTS) should be continued and enhanced to accommodate the growing interest in implementing Safe Routes to Schools plans in communities.

    Recommendation 5.12: “Active transport” should be encouraged between homes, schools, and community destinations for afterschool activities, including to and from parks, libraries, transit, bus stops, and recreation centers.

    Recommendation 5.13: Increase the number of safe and accessible parks and playgrounds, particularly in underserved and low-income communities

    Recommendation 5.14: The Federal government should continue to support investments in a wide range of outdoor recreation venues, such as National Parks, Forests, Refuges and other public lands, and expand opportunities for children to enjoy these venues.

    Recommendation 5.15: Local governments should be encouraged to enter into joint use agreements to increase children’s access to community sites for indoor and outdoor recreation

    Recommendation 5.16: The business sector should be encouraged to consider which resources and physical assets like fields and gyms can be used to increase students’ access to outdoor and indoor recreational venues

    Recommendation 5.17: Entertainment and technology companies should continue to develop new approaches for using technology to engage children in physical activity
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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I personally think Mrs. Obama is a bit over zealous in try to get people to eat healthier. Palin agrees.here's the down low of how the govt is going to force this down our thraots and make decisions for us:

    from http://www.letsmove.gov/pdf/TaskForc...FullReport.pdf


    Summary of Recommendations cont

    Recommendation 5.1: Developers of local school wellness policies should be encouraged to include strong physical activity components, on par with nutrition components.

    Recommendation 5.2: The President’s Challenge should be updated to ensure consistency with the Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans and to ensure ease of use and implementation by schools. Private sector partners with an interest in physical activity should help enroll children in the Presidential Active Lifestyle Award program

    Recommendation 5.3: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to increase the quality and frequency of sequential, age- and developmentally- appropriate physical education for all students, taught by certified PE teachers

    Recommendation 5.4: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to promote recess for elementary students and physical activity breaks for older students, and provide support to schools to implement recess in a healthy way that promotes physical activity and social skill development.

    Recommendation 5.5: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to provide opportunities in and outside of school for students at increased risk for physical inactivity, including children with disabilities, children with asthma and other chronic diseases, and girls

    Recommendation 5.6: Federal, state, and local educational agencies, in partnership with communities and businesses, should work to support programs to extend the school day, including afterschool programs, which offer and enhance physical activity opportunities in their programs

    Recommendation 5.7: State and local educational agencies should be encouraged to support interscholastic sports and help decrease prohibitive costs of sports by curbing practices such as “pay-to-play,” working with other public and private sector partners.

    Recommendation 5.8: Reauthorize a Surface Transportation Act that enhances livability and physical activity.

    Recommendation 5.9: The Environmental Protection Agency should assist school districts that may be interested in siting guidelines for new schools that consider the promotion of physical activity, including whether students will be able to walk or bike to school

    Recommendation 5.10: Communities should be encouraged to consider the impacts of built environment policies and regulations on human health.

    Recommendation 5.11: The Federal Safe Routes to School Program (SRTS) should be continued and enhanced to accommodate the growing interest in implementing Safe Routes to Schools plans in communities.

    Recommendation 5.12: “Active transport” should be encouraged between homes, schools, and community destinations for afterschool activities, including to and from parks, libraries, transit, bus stops, and recreation centers.

    Recommendation 5.13: Increase the number of safe and accessible parks and playgrounds, particularly in underserved and low-income communities

    Recommendation 5.14: The Federal government should continue to support investments in a wide range of outdoor recreation venues, such as National Parks, Forests, Refuges and other public lands, and expand opportunities for children to enjoy these venues.

    Recommendation 5.15: Local governments should be encouraged to enter into joint use agreements to increase children’s access to community sites for indoor and outdoor recreation

    Recommendation 5.16: The business sector should be encouraged to consider which resources and physical assets like fields and gyms can be used to increase students’ access to outdoor and indoor recreational venues

    Recommendation 5.17: Entertainment and technology companies should continue to develop new approaches for using technology to engage children in physical activity
    You do notice that each one of these points starts off with the word "Recommendation" and has the words "should" or "encourage" in them. Please point out where ANY of these things are "decrees".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Palin's reckless views on obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Interesting that some folks are partisan enough to believe that THAT is what Michelle Obama is saying.
    I was referring to the people who thanked the Rat's post.


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