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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Only one Dem won re-election. Clinton... and he had Dick Morris run a couple brilliant strategies after 1994:
    What difference does the party affiliation make? There have been several incumbent CIC candidates that came from behind in polls with decisive victories. And conversely I can think of one that was riding really high in the polls a year or two before the election, and come election time his numbers has slipped considerably and he lost. Bush senior.

    BTW I find this rather interesting:

    Obama Big Betting Favorite for 2012



    Don't write off Barack Obama just yet. He may be politically wounded, but he's far from politically dead.

    In fact, despite his skidding approval numbers, the furor over his inability to resolve the jobs mess and the whipping he took in the mid-term elections, leading a number of political pundits to predict he'll be a one-term president, lo and behold, Obama has emerged as the odds-on favorite to recapture the White House in 2012.

    That's the assessment of the United Kingdom's William Hill, one of the world's largest and most influential bookmakers. After a week of brisk betting on the U.S.'s 2012 presidential outcome following the recent elections, the bookmaker has established Obama as the man to beat and rates him as even money to reign again for another four years.

    What makes this outlook especially noteworthy is that Obama is now the top dog and by no means an underdog, some media reports notwithstanding.

    What's more, William Hill boasts a pretty imposing record in picking winners in the U.S. presidential sweepstakes. "We normally get it right," says Rupert Adams, director of the bookmaker's media operations, who tells me the firm's favorites win about 80% to 90% of the time.

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    Dan Dorfman: Obama Big Betting Favorite for 2012
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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Only one Dem lost re-election. Carter who had the economy, the failure in Iraq, and an opponent who knew how to present himself, fabulously... even if his message had little substance, to contend with.



    I agree that Obama isn't Clinton. But Palin is FAR more removed from Reagan than Obama is from Clinton.
    No... they're (Palin/Reagan) cut from similar cloth, they're both fighters, they're both Conservatives, and Palin gives a better stump speech than Obama... who's used up his Yes We Can, his The One We Have Been Waiting Fo, Hope, Change, Unity... all hollow, meaningless, laughable BS now.

    I wonder... will he claim he can part the seas? How will he defend not closing Gitmo? How will he BS his way about his bombing in Louisiana, or his trillions bringing nothing? Or ObamaKare shoved through after the Brown vote with parliamentary tactics, bribes and lies.

    His immigration policy? Taking AZ to court... this guy is weak on tons of fronts. I won't be surprised if someone runs against him in the primaries.

    Obama's a big, fat, easy political target... and complaining about Bush isn't going to work... people are fed up with his whining. And so-called eloquence... doesn't exist. He's exactly as Isikoff stated... creepy. A creepy anti-American.

    He's a known quantity now, and on the scales of political weight... he barely moves the needle.

    Clinton's a lefty, but pragmatic. Obama's an Alinsky/Wright/Ayers styled ideologue. Worlds apart.

    BTW... Have a great Thanksgiving Y'all.

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No... they're (Palin/Reagan) cut from similar cloth, they're both fighters, they're both Conservatives, and ...

    Wow what an insult to Reagan! Better stump speech!? What are smoking? She sounds like fingernails scraping a chalk board!

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What difference does the party affiliation make? There have been several incumbent CIC candidates that came from behind in polls with decisive victories. And conversely I can think of one that was riding really high in the polls a year or two before the election, and come election time his numbers has slipped considerably and he lost. Bush senior.

    BTW I find this rather interesting:

    Obama Big Betting Favorite for 2012



    Don't write off Barack Obama just yet. He may be politically wounded, but he's far from politically dead.

    In fact, despite his skidding approval numbers, the furor over his inability to resolve the jobs mess and the whipping he took in the mid-term elections, leading a number of political pundits to predict he'll be a one-term president, lo and behold, Obama has emerged as the odds-on favorite to recapture the White House in 2012.

    That's the assessment of the United Kingdom's William Hill, one of the world's largest and most influential bookmakers. After a week of brisk betting on the U.S.'s 2012 presidential outcome following the recent elections, the bookmaker has established Obama as the man to beat and rates him as even money to reign again for another four years.

    What makes this outlook especially noteworthy is that Obama is now the top dog and by no means an underdog, some media reports notwithstanding.

    What's more, William Hill boasts a pretty imposing record in picking winners in the U.S. presidential sweepstakes. "We normally get it right," says Rupert Adams, director of the bookmaker's media operations, who tells me the firm's favorites win about 80% to 90% of the time.

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    Dan Dorfman: Obama Big Betting Favorite for 2012
    LOL... then go out and bet the house on him. As Buffett says, when you make a bet in the market, and you've done your homework and are operating within your circle of competence, then make a substantial bet.

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Wow what an insult to Reagan! Better stump speech!? What are smoking? She sounds like fingernails scraping a chalk board!


    One thing I love, watch this and it's ****ing hilarious when she says "Why can't we ever just be satisfied with TRANQUILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!"

    Blew my mind lol. Proves your point.

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Wow what an insult to Reagan! Better stump speech!? What are smoking? She sounds like fingernails scraping a chalk board!
    Better stump speeches than Obama.

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No... they're (Palin/Reagan) cut from similar cloth, they're both fighters, they're both Conservatives, and Palin gives a better stump speech than Obama... who's used up his Yes We Can, his The One We Have Been Waiting Fo, Hope, Change, Unity... all hollow, meaningless, laughable BS now.
    Now you're digressing into absurdity. Claiming that Palin and Reagan are similar completely degrades any positive effect Reagan had. Palin is to Reagan as Buchanan was to Lincoln.

    I wonder... will he claim he can part the seas? How will he defend not closing Gitmo? How will he BS his way about his bombing in Louisiana, or his trillions bringing nothing? Or ObamaKare shoved through after the Brown vote with parliamentary tactics, bribes and lies.

    His immigration policy? Taking AZ to court... this guy is weak on tons of fronts. I won't be surprised if someone runs against him in the primaries.

    Obama's a big, fat, easy political target... and complaining about Bush isn't going to work... people are fed up with his whining. And so-called eloquence... doesn't exist. He's exactly as Isikoff stated... creepy. A creepy anti-American.

    He's a known quantity now, and on the scales of political weight... he barely moves the needle.

    Clinton's a lefty, but pragmatic. Obama's an Alinsky/Wright/Ayers styled ideologue. Worlds apart.
    Reagan knew how to communicate well and present himself as a competant statesman. Palin does not have a clue as to these qualities. I was not nor am a Reagan fan, but putting Palin in Reagan's class is like putting a little leaguer in the major leagues.

    BTW... Have a great Thanksgiving Y'all.

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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The question is, will he run again?

    People point to Clinton post midterms, but Clinton did two things:

    1. He signed a lot of Republican legislation, including welfare reform... which he swore he wouldn't. (Clinton being who he is, tried on its 10th anniversary, to take credit for its huge success.)

    2. He started a stealth campaign on TV in southern states that was under the radar; a brilliant tactic from his mastermind Dick Morris.

    Obama won't likely do enough of the first, and the second trick was a one-time only performance, just like Obama's bait-and-switch. Neither are gonna work this time around.

    PS. It's the economy Stupid.


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    At this rate, he'll be down to 5% by 2012.
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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post


    One thing I love, watch this and it's ****ing hilarious when she says "Why can't we ever just be satisfied with TRANQUILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!"

    Blew my mind lol. Proves your point.
    Sarah Palin could definitely kick your ass with one of her pretty hands tied behind her back.
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    Re: Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts aw

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHippie View Post
    you should debate my brother... He would eat you alive man. Anyways. I've seen what republicans have done to this country and until obama gets into a war, I shall support him.
    Please don't tell us that you support the military because I don't buy it. Second what exactly did the Republicans do to this country as the Democrats have been in control since January 2007?

    I would love to debate your brother or any other liberal because facts always trump liberal feel good rhetoric. The liberal economic policies have been failures all over the world but liberal arrogance always surfaces where a liberal today tells a liberal of yesterday that implemented those failed policies that they did them wrong and this group of liberals can do it better.

    Give these non partisan links to your brother or anyone else who claims the Republicans hurt the country.

    BLS link, create own chart from official data that shows employment, unemployment, and discouraged workers

    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)

    BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense. This site gives you economic growth and actual dollars budgeted and spent by the Federal Govt.

    U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis

    U.S. Treasury showing revenue and expense line items. You can get the budget for each year from the actual checkbook of the United States.

    Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

    These are non partisan official sites that give actual data compared to the CBO which makes predictions based upon Congressional assumptions. Wonder which one is more accurate, actual data or projections?

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