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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    thats where the money is that is not going to basic needs of life.
    So, you support the government taking all the desposable income from the private sector?
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

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    So, you support the government taking all the desposable income from the private sector?
    no I do not
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

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    no I do not
    How is a tax hike going to fix, something, then?

    Explain to us why trickle down economics doesn't work and tax hikes do.
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    You want to know how additional hundreds of billions of dollars will help?

    We can do several things with it that we are not now doing

    1- we can use it to decrease the deficit

    2- we can use it to rebuild some of our failing infrastructure or to fund the types of public service programs that Turtle just suggested and endorsed or other good things

    3- we can use it for a combination of both
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You want to know how additional hundreds of billions of dollars will help?

    We can do several things with it that we are not now doing

    1- we can use it to decrease the deficit

    2- we can use it to rebuild some of our failing infrastructure or to fund the types of public service programs that Turtle just suggested and endorsed or other good things

    3- we can use it for a combination of both
    the only way to stop the deficit is to make the deficit a problem for the vast majority of the voters. right now it isn't and the dem scheme to raise ONLY the taxes of the top 2% SENDS A MESSAGE to the rest of the voters that DEFICIT reduction IS NOT THEIR DUTY NOR WILL THEY HAVE TO SUFFER tax increases to accomplish this

    that means the deficit will continue to grow because the tax hikes on the "rich" won't come close to making up the spending the rest of the voters clamor for.

    right now the dems buy votes this way. and the dems won't engage in serious spending cuts because that will impact their ability to buy votes with social spending.

    the first thing we need is a flat tax. if everyone is faced with tax hikes (or benefit reductions) due to more government expansion, EVERYONE will have an incentive to stop such nonsense.

    the second thing we need are judges who won't rubber stamp that many and expansive government programs that are not constitutionally proper

    the third thing is we need to make dependence by those who are not disabled much less comfortable



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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

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    The only way to stop the deficit is to make the deficit a problem for the vast majority of the voters.
    If , and that is a very large word, that is true, the answer is education of the public and not advocating programs which would effectively repeal two previous Constitutional amendments.

    that means the deficit will continue to grow because the tax hikes on the "rich" won't come close to making up the spending the rest of the voters clamor for.
    Then perhaps they will have to be raised again.

    the second thing we need are judges who won't rubber stamp that many and expansive government programs that are not constitutionally proper
    In washington DC there is a structure called The Supreme Court Building. The men and women on the Court already perform this task and have been doing so for over two centuries now. You simply must keep up.

    the third thing is we need to make dependence by those who are not disabled much less comfortable
    aha - a variation on 'the floggings will continue until morale improves'.
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You want to know how additional hundreds of billions of dollars will help?

    We can do several things with it that we are not now doing

    1- we can use it to decrease the deficit
    We can reduce spending and decrease the deficit.

    2- we can use it to rebuild some of our failing infrastructure or to fund the types of public service programs that Turtle just suggested and endorsed or other good things

    3- we can use it for a combination of both
    When the economy improves, then we'll have money to spend on bridges, not to mention that billions in fuel taxes and 2290's are paid every year and that money is supposed to go towards our, "failing/crumbling", infrastructure.

    So, again, what's the alternative to truickle down economics, that will work even better?
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    from Turtle



    If , and that is a very large word, that is true, the answer is education of the public and not advocating programs which would effectively repeal two previous Constitutional amendments.



    Then perhaps they will have to be raised again.



    In washington DC there is a structure called The Supreme Court Building. The men and women on the Court already perform this task and have been doing so for over two centuries now. You simply must keep up.



    aha - a variation on 'the floggings will continue until morale improves'.
    Haymarket has a real issue with cutting down the spending his dem masters use to buy votes

    the supreme court under FDR screwed the pooch when it came to doing their duty on this issue



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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    easy

    the first thing to do is to create a tax system where one group cannot vote up the rates of another group without paying more themselves. that would stop the pandering

    secondly, we need to stop economic incentives for irresponsible parents to continue to breed.

    third, those on the dole would be required to engage in public service-be it picking up trash on the highways or removing graffitti on buildings. yes there are some on the dole who cannot work but there are plenty who can. As a Young attorney I spent alot of time in "Room A" (arraignments) of the county courthouse and I saw lines of those on PA charged with all sorts of crimes. If you are fit enough to rob a hot dog stand operator or jack some guy's car you are fit enough to do some manual labor
    We should make people who are criminals do these things and not innocent poor folks
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    Re: Warren Buffet: 'Trickle Down' Theory Doesn't Work

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only way to stop the deficit is to make the deficit a problem for the vast majority of the voters. right now it isn't and the dem scheme to raise ONLY the taxes of the top 2% SENDS A MESSAGE to the rest of the voters that DEFICIT reduction IS NOT THEIR DUTY NOR WILL THEY HAVE TO SUFFER tax increases to accomplish this

    that means the deficit will continue to grow because the tax hikes on the "rich" won't come close to making up the spending the rest of the voters clamor for.

    right now the dems buy votes this way. and the dems won't engage in serious spending cuts because that will impact their ability to buy votes with social spending.

    the first thing we need is a flat tax. if everyone is faced with tax hikes (or benefit reductions) due to more government expansion, EVERYONE will have an incentive to stop such nonsense.

    the second thing we need are judges who won't rubber stamp that many and expansive government programs that are not constitutionally proper

    the third thing is we need to make dependence by those who are not disabled much less comfortable
    Do you really think poor peeps living in public housing and on foodstamps are all cozy and comfortable? I mean really? REALLY?
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