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Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

As long as you are going to continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the actual results we are going nowhere. That seems to be the problem with liberals today, they buy the flowering rhetoric of obama and ignore his actual results. You see, results trump rhetoric and Obama was shellacked on Nov. 2, something you and others still don't want to understand.

What a wonderful straw man. You assume I make my assessments based on what Obama says instead of my own views on how society functions.
 
What a wonderful straw man. You assume I make my assessments based on what Obama says instead of my own views on how society functions.

The fact that when asked about the Obama accomplishments you ignored the question. That says it all
 
Oh look, your question was answered in the op!

What the heck has Obama done so far?

LOL, ok, great website now how have all those results affected the economy,national security, and the debt?


Looks like a lot of lies to me, shouldn't the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis, and U.S. Treasury show those results? Obama claims to have created more private sector jobs in 2010 than Bush did his entire term yet 4 million jobs have been lost according to BLS and 16 million Americans are unemployed so obviously someone is lying. I suggest you reconcile the rhetoric with results.

Here are some good places to start

BLS link, create own chart
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ce

BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense
http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/SelectTable.asp?Popular=Y

U.S. Treasury
http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/index.html
 
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LOL, ok, great website now how have all those results affected the economy,national security, and the debt?


Looks like a lot of lies to me, shouldn't the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis, and U.S. Treasury show those results? Obama claims to have created more private sector jobs in 2010 than Bush did his entire term yet 4 million jobs have been lost according to BLS and 16 million Americans are unemployed so obviously someone is lying. I suggest you reconcile the rhetoric with results.

Here are some good places to start

BLS link, create own chart
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)

BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense
U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis

U.S. Treasury
http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/index.html

Please show me where this claim was on this website. Otherwise you are just going in your own direction without regard to our previous discussion.
 
If you filter out the jobs lost by activities in previous administrations and congresses, than his claim is credible.

What exactly did the Bush Administration do that cost this country millions of jobs in 2010? Why is unemployment higher each month of 2010 than it was in 2009? That claim is an absolutely lie according to BLS or is the OBama Administration more accurate than the Bureau of Labor Statistics? Explain to me how Obama can create more private sector jobs when there are 4 million less jobs today than there was when Bush left office? Your attempted defense of this Administration just makes you look foolish.
 
What exactly did the Bush Administration do that cost this country millions of jobs in 2010? Why is unemployment higher each month of 2010 than it was in 2009? That claim is an absolutely lie according to BLS or is the OBama Administration more accurate than the Bureau of Labor Statistics? Explain to me how Obama can create more private sector jobs when there are 4 million less jobs today than there was when Bush left office? Your attempted defense of this Administration just makes you look foolish.

I rewrote the post. After thinking about it, I found some flaws in my logic, so I am disregarding this line in the discussion.
 
Please show me where this claim was on this website. Otherwise you are just going in your own direction without regard to our previous discussion.

Read your own website and get back to me, then explain why BLS shows the following and how that computes with the Obama claims?

Employment by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061
 
Read your own website and get back to me, then explain why BLS shows the following and how that computes with the Obama claims?

Employment by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061

I did and I did not find this claim.
 
I rewrote the post. After thinking about it, I found some flaws in my logic, so I am disregarding this line in the discussion.

There are a lot of flaws in the Obama supporter logic as I don't see much logic at all in the posts so tell me what are you disregarding and what did you re-write?
 
There are a lot of flaws in the Obama supporter logic as I don't see much logic at all in the posts so tell me what are you disregarding and what did you re-write?

You have already responded to it. post 55.
 
So you didn't see the Obama claim that his Adminstration created more private sector jobs than the entire Bush term? Interesting.

Not on this website, no.
 
Not on this website, no.

Most of the slides are leftwing propaganda that either hasn't generated the results promised or are downright lies as I pointed out about the private sector jobs. Please tell me how employment numbers can be lower with more jobs created? Bush has 143 million employed people in December 2008 and today there are 139 million. It simply is impossible dealing with an Obama supporter who cannot even read non partisan data. You want so badly to believe what you are told by this empty suit than you don't even care that he is lying to you as the numbers show. That is a cult follower.
 
Most of the slides are leftwing propaganda that either hasn't generated the results promised or are downright lies as I pointed out about the private sector jobs. Please tell me how employment numbers can be lower with more jobs created? Bush has 143 million employed people in December 2008 and today there are 139 million. It simply is impossible dealing with an Obama supporter who cannot even read non partisan data. You want so badly to believe what you are told by this empty suit than you don't even care that he is lying to you as the numbers show. That is a cult follower.

So you are pursuing the claim that this claim is on the website even though you cannot show me where it is? Interesting.
 
So you are pursuing the claim that this claim is on the website even though you cannot show me where it is? Interesting.

I copied and pasted the exact slide from the website. Looks to me like you haven't even gone through the site, just another example of somone who buys what you are told and never verifies the rhetoric.

What the heck has Obama done so far?

Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
 
I copied and pasted the exact slide from the website. Looks to me like you haven't even gone through the site, just another example of somone who buys what you are told and never verifies the rhetoric.

What the heck has Obama done so far?

Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years

I know, I was just making you prove it because I am in one of those moods :mrgreen:

But yeah, I will admit I threw the website out to get you off my back because you were going down a road that didn't interest me. So yeah, you found a claim that I cannot verify. This was a careless action on my part, which I am kicking myself because I am usually sure of something before I post it.
 
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Is it racist to point out the obvious? That the majority of black people voted for Obama base on skin color?

I mean, what's up with that? Now who's going to pay for my mortgage and give me free things?
 
Is it racist to point out the obvious? That the majority of black people voted for Obama base on skin color?

I mean, what's up with that? Now who's going to pay for my mortgage and give me free things?

I would say the juxtaposition of those two statements has some worrying overtones.
 
Ah. I suppose there's no Mexican illegal immigrants or socialists in the UK.

Are we sensitive and refusing to acknowledge what is? I mislike when there is an obvious general truth yet those who are accused of such nitpick and evade as hard as they can.
 
most Americans are Conservatives.

Most Americans are scared easy you mean?

Why did Bush Sr. get elected? They were scared rapist weren't going to get punished enough.

Why did Clinton get elected? They were scared their lips weren't being read about their taxes.

Why did Bush Jr. get elected? People were scared Al Gore was a robot. (I guess?)

Why did Obama get elected? They were scared ****less of anything Bush had a hand in (everything the past 8 years then)

Americans specifically independents get scared easy.

Here is some older data (from 2004 election) showing how the numbers split amongst voters:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tion.svg/290px-U.S._party_affiliation.svg.png

Here is some more recent data going by state, of course the bluer it is the heavier the state is dem, the redder republican:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Republican_v_Democrat_Gallup_6-10.svg
 
Since Obama came on the scene, the right has been finding things, real or imagined to criticize the guy about in order for form a narrative, but the truth never mattered. Your comment is a nice summary of that self created perception. :shrug:

William Ayers; terrorist.
20-years of inhaling and regurgitating Reverand Wright, The Supreme race baiter's toxic waste.
Alinsky trained idealogue.
Bitter Clingers.
Spread the wealth around.

All this was before the election.

His comment about R's being "enemies" need not be stated, for it was enunciated prior to his being elected. But, confirmation is nice to have when dealing with Democrats. They've got a serious blind spot.

Any of the above would have killed any other candidate.
I mean really Mega... there is no need to make anything up about this guy. He has provided ample fodder to politically lynch himself.

And then this about our founders:


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Most Americans are scared easy you mean?
Oi vey... No.

Why did Bush Sr. get elected? They were scared rapist weren't going to get punished enough.
No. They were tired of the scandal a month, the lies and deceit of The Clintons. That is true. Bush 43, though not eloquent was seen as an honest man with a record in TX of working with Dems.

Why did Clinton get elected? They were scared their lips weren't being read about their taxes.
Clinton was one of those circus acts that became popular. A little like Obama. Near the end of Bush 41's term, the economy started sliding, and Bush said... let's wait it out, it will come back. It did too, just when Clinton was starting his term. Carville played Bush as being aloof, and used "It's the economy stupid", and the ploy worked.

Why did Bush Jr. get elected? People were scared Al Gore was a robot. (I guess?)
They were tired of the Clintons, and wanted some honor restored in the WH. Gore obviously was a weak candidate. He blew it in all the debates. After the first debate, the press said he won, until it came out he lied every 12-minutes... after that Bush smacked him around like a world champ sparring a child. End of story.

Why did Obama get elected? They were scared ****less of anything Bush had a hand in (everything the past 8 years then)
People were tired of Bush, and McCain wasn't much different from Obama on paper. The Cult of Obama was propagated by journOlists who looked the other way at all his indiscretions. It was a sad American moment we will pay for for decades.

Americans specifically independents get scared easy.
Not easily. I will say the uprising called The Tea Party was created out of frustration and fear. Fear of watching this great nation being flushed down the crapper by a Marxist ideologue and his Duma. The Duma has been dismantled, next is to replace the Supreme Leader with someone who cherishes America, the Constitution and seeks to undo the damage done.

Anything else you want to know?

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