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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As long as you are going to continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the actual results we are going nowhere. That seems to be the problem with liberals today, they buy the flowering rhetoric of obama and ignore his actual results. You see, results trump rhetoric and Obama was shellacked on Nov. 2, something you and others still don't want to understand.
    What a wonderful straw man. You assume I make my assessments based on what Obama says instead of my own views on how society functions.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What a wonderful straw man. You assume I make my assessments based on what Obama says instead of my own views on how society functions.
    The fact that when asked about the Obama accomplishments you ignored the question. That says it all

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The fact that when asked about the Obama accomplishments you ignored the question. That says it all
    Oh look, your question was answered in the op!

    http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/
    Last edited by tacomancer; 11-23-10 at 07:59 PM.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Oh look, your question was answered in the op!

    What the heck has Obama done so far?
    LOL, ok, great website now how have all those results affected the economy,national security, and the debt?


    Looks like a lot of lies to me, shouldn't the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis, and U.S. Treasury show those results? Obama claims to have created more private sector jobs in 2010 than Bush did his entire term yet 4 million jobs have been lost according to BLS and 16 million Americans are unemployed so obviously someone is lying. I suggest you reconcile the rhetoric with results.

    Here are some good places to start

    BLS link, create own chart
    http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ce

    BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense
    http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/....asp?Popular=Y

    U.S. Treasury
    http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/index.html
    Last edited by Conservative; 11-23-10 at 08:13 PM.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, ok, great website now how have all those results affected the economy,national security, and the debt?


    Looks like a lot of lies to me, shouldn't the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of Economic Analysis, and U.S. Treasury show those results? Obama claims to have created more private sector jobs in 2010 than Bush did his entire term yet 4 million jobs have been lost according to BLS and 16 million Americans are unemployed so obviously someone is lying. I suggest you reconcile the rhetoric with results.

    Here are some good places to start

    BLS link, create own chart
    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)

    BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense
    U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis

    U.S. Treasury
    http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/index.html
    Please show me where this claim was on this website. Otherwise you are just going in your own direction without regard to our previous discussion.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If you filter out the jobs lost by activities in previous administrations and congresses, than his claim is credible.
    What exactly did the Bush Administration do that cost this country millions of jobs in 2010? Why is unemployment higher each month of 2010 than it was in 2009? That claim is an absolutely lie according to BLS or is the OBama Administration more accurate than the Bureau of Labor Statistics? Explain to me how Obama can create more private sector jobs when there are 4 million less jobs today than there was when Bush left office? Your attempted defense of this Administration just makes you look foolish.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly did the Bush Administration do that cost this country millions of jobs in 2010? Why is unemployment higher each month of 2010 than it was in 2009? That claim is an absolutely lie according to BLS or is the OBama Administration more accurate than the Bureau of Labor Statistics? Explain to me how Obama can create more private sector jobs when there are 4 million less jobs today than there was when Bush left office? Your attempted defense of this Administration just makes you look foolish.
    I rewrote the post. After thinking about it, I found some flaws in my logic, so I am disregarding this line in the discussion.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Please show me where this claim was on this website. Otherwise you are just going in your own direction without regard to our previous discussion.
    Read your own website and get back to me, then explain why BLS shows the following and how that computes with the Obama claims?

    Employment by month

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

    2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
    2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
    2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
    2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
    2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Read your own website and get back to me, then explain why BLS shows the following and how that computes with the Obama claims?

    Employment by month

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

    2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
    2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
    2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
    2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
    2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061
    I did and I did not find this claim.

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    Re: Why WTF Has Obama Done So Far Isn't Helping Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I rewrote the post. After thinking about it, I found some flaws in my logic, so I am disregarding this line in the discussion.
    There are a lot of flaws in the Obama supporter logic as I don't see much logic at all in the posts so tell me what are you disregarding and what did you re-write?

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