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White House to put up to 5,000 salad bars in schools

Harshaw said:
:shrug: Never even saw it.
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Oops! I gave you credit for being informed when I shouldn't have. My bad.

So, let's hear your opinion: Should people receiving food stamps be permitted to purchase a couple of sodas for their kids each month, or not?

Harshaw said:
Don't see what the one has to do with the other, anyway. You're going on and on about the kids of people bitching about something without having any idea what their kids actually do.
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I'm afraid you're terribly confused. I'm "going on" about ADULTS complaining (for example, in the Soda-buying thread) that their tax dollars are providing the means for poor families to purchase the occasional soda for their kids, when THEY don't have any information about the overall diet the kids in those poor families are actually consuming.

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Harshaw said:
Who do you think would actually be against that (at least in principle; some may argue over exact implementation)?
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The rightwingers in this thread certainly aren't having hissy fits over "bad" food choices, the way they did in the Soda-buying thread. I wonder why that is?
 
Glinda said:
Oops! I gave you credit for being informed when I shouldn't have. My bad.
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Hardly. :roll: You simply made an assumption based on . . . well, nothing of substance.


So, let's hear your opinion: Should people receiving food stamps be permitted to purchase a couple of sodas for their kids each month, or not?
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Don't care.


I'm afraid you're terribly confused. I'm "going on" about ADULTS complaining (for example, in the Soda-buying thread) that their tax dollars are providing the means for poor families to purchase the occasional soda for their kids, when THEY don't have any idea how well (or badly) the kids in those poor families actually eat.
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I don't think so:

Glinda said:
But their parents aren't worrying about it; they're too busy bitching that their tax dollars are being spent (a) to provide much needed food stamp benefits to the many millions currently without jobs, and (b) to offer their spoiled, non-personally responsible brats a healthy alternative for school lunch. God forbid their chunktastic rug-rats eat a 100% healthy meal from time to time. :doh
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Glinda said:
The rightwingers in this thread certainly aren't having hissy fits over "bad" food choices, the way they did in the Soda-buying thread. I wonder why that is?
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Maybe they're just out to piss you off. You, personally. :roll:
 
Harshaw said:
Maybe they're just out to piss you off. You, personally. :roll:
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If this is what you believe, then you're undoubtedly wandering around out where the buses don't run. Buh-bye and have a nice evening.
 
Glinda said:
If this is what you believe, then you're undoubtedly wandering around out where the buses don't run. Buh-bye and have a nice evening.
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Well, I figured it was obvious I was responding to absurdity with absurdity, but hey. Wouldn't be the first time today I've badly overestimated.
 
zimmer said:
m o r e w a s t e d m o n e y.

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Nov. 22 update: First Lady Michelle Obama indeed announced today that a new public-private partnership, Let’s Move Salad Bars to Schools, would make it possible for at least 6,000 salad bars to be installed in U.S. school cafeterias. Riverside Elementary School in Miami, where the announcement was made, received the program's first salad bar. We'll have more on the new program's funding and application process next week.

Does this need to go through Congress and what is this public-private relationship? I don't like the sounds of that. I get the feeling this isn't about healthy eating at all, just more government intrusion.
 
Harshaw said:
Well, I figured it was obvious I was responding to absurdity with absurdity
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I guess you missed the fact that I was doing the same thing. :doh
 
Glinda said:
Here's a wild thought... why don't we completely eliminate throwing taxpayer money away on crap food for school lunches and give kids ONLY healthy choices?
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You can take my tater tots from my cold, dead hands!!
 
I guess I'm the minority by supporting the salad-bar.

My kid's school already provides a salad bar for the levels above elementary (and still provide various fresh items for those in elementary) . . . and I think they're great. The kids choose what they want to eat - if they don't like it they won't pick it, thus, they won't waste it.

Nothing chapped my hide more than learning that in the elementary schools, before fruits were offered during an in-class snack time later in the day, that the fruits were just given on the tray at lunchtime and the majority of which was thrown away because they're not quick-eat foods.

I pay $1.75 for my 3 younger children and $2.00 for my oldest to eat lunch every day at school. (Which is almost $150.00 every single damned month). Damned straight I want that whopping chunk of change to net better test results, health and vision. . . with less waste.

More foods they choose = more chances that they'll eat it = less waste of my money.

If a salad bar is good enough for my kid's schools then it should be good enough for everyone else's, too.
 
Zyphlin said:
In other news, 6 months from now 5,000 salad bars will be found virtually untouched by school chidren.
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Because McDonald's still rules in school cafeterias. :mrgreen:
 
Barbbtx said:
Does this need to go through Congress and what is this public-private relationship? I don't like the sounds of that. I get the feeling this isn't about healthy eating at all, just more government intrusion.
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Is there anything Obama or his wife does that you don't see as government intrusion?


OH NO! Promoting Healthier Eating! GUBMINT IS AFTER ME!!!!!!!!

Jesus H. ****ing Christ Mary And Joseph in Heaven.

Grow a pair.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You're seriously underestimating how Health Concious some kids have become.

While on paper this looks like a really really dumb plan, there is sufficient evidence to suggest a students eating habits, can have a serious effect on their ability to learn. If it could catch on, which you never know, we might see some serious positive effects.

On the other hand, again personal responsbility has to come in somewhere. But since when has offering choice been deemed a terrible idea?
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You are so out of touch with reality that it is unlikely you'll ever see Earth again. Do you have children???? Seriously, do you?
 
Glinda said:
The rightwingers in this thread certainly aren't having hissy fits over "bad" food choices, the way they did in the Soda-buying thread. I wonder why that is?
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Perhaps its because they're actually discussing the threads topic rather than trying to derail it into a conversation about something else?

Amazing that.

The threads topic isn't concerning a proposal to get rid of bad food and put in salad bars, its just a proposal to add salad bars. Shockingly, people are actually staying on topic and discussing what's been proposed.

How DARE they actually focus on the wasteful program that's being discussed instead of turning the thread into a discussion about an entirely different wasteful program.
 
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Glinda said:
Here's a wild thought... why don't we completely eliminate throwing taxpayer money away on crap food for school lunches and give kids ONLY healthy choices?
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Sure, that's an interesting idea. It seems one the administration doesn't like but would instead like to just continue to throw taxpayer money away by methods such as this.
 
Glinda said:
Here's a wild thought... why don't we completely eliminate throwing taxpayer money away on crap food for school lunches and give kids ONLY healthy choices?
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That sounds great!

Could you provide a sample menu, say, for one week of elementary school?
 
Glinda said:
Here's a wild thought... why don't we completely eliminate throwing taxpayer money away on crap food for school lunches and give kids ONLY healthy choices?
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I spend $1500 on school lunches for my kids every year. Without taxpayer-funding my schools have already put salad-bars and healthy snacks (veggies and fruits for the younger kids) into motion. It's been like this for years.

But you're actually telling me that other kids shouldnt' be given the same good food that my kids get, that my school district funded out of pocket and on their own initiative - because tax payers have to fund some of it for them or because their schools districts don't care *that much* about it - or because some of those kids are poor?

Heck - if people receive foodstamps that they can buy lays potatoe chips and sodas with - then maybe their kids should be given some tomatoes and lettuce, too, without complaint?

Of all the things the government spends BILLIONS on every year - feeding some healthy food to some unhealthy kids is NOT a problem for me.

I take more issue with how it's distributed to other cuontries to fund their various war efforts. How it props up failing banks and business who don't want to do business the right way. Or even Congress' own fat wallets.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I spend $1500 on school lunches for my kids every year. Without taxpayer-funding my schools have already put salad-bars and healthy snacks (veggies and fruits for the younger kids) into motion. It's been like this for years.

But you're actually telling me that other kids shouldnt' be given the same good food that my kids get, that my school district funded out of pocket and on their own initiative - because tax payers have to fund some of it for them or because their schools districts don't care *that much* about it - or because some of those kids are poor?

Heck - if people receive foodstamps that they can buy lays potatoe chips and sodas with - then maybe their kids should be given some tomatoes and lettuce, too, without complaint?

Of all the things the government spends BILLIONS on every year - feeding some healthy food to some unhealthy kids is NOT a problem for me.

I take more issue with how it's distributed to other cuontries to fund their various war efforts. How it props up failing banks and business who don't want to do business the right way. Or even Congress' own fat wallets.
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seems that your children are fortunate to attend school where there is a concern about the food choices the students receive
i doubt that a white house decree telling these other less inclined schools to now roll out a salad bar is going to cause much of a difference
what cuts in existing meals will they have to make to be able to now afford to offer very perishable fresh vegetables/fruits?
is there anything telling us that elementary age kids, who may not be inclined to use good sanitation methods, and whose small height make sneeze guards ineffective, will not actually make something intended to be more healthy, less healthy in practice?
i see this as another 'throw money at the problem' approach. that inclination has not benefited our nation's public school system or our health care system. why should we believe this knee jerk response is going to actually improve the diets of our kids?
 
My fellow Americans, take a look at the majority composition of this country:

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Glinda said:
1. It doesn't matter if the kids in question are fat or not. The underlying argument presented by the right-wingers in the Soda-buying thread is that "fast food and soda are BAD for kids and should not EVER be funded by taxpayers." Do you agree? If so, how can you condone taxpayer-funded school lunches that include any sort of unhealthy fast foods? You should be just as outraged as they were in the Soda-buying thread. Should we be surprised that you're not?

2. I have at least as much "data" that fast foods make kids fat as do the whiners in the Soda-buying thread that families on food stamps are putting their kids at serious health risk by bringing home the occasional soda. ;)

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3. A kid that refuses to eat a salad at school is most likely a kid that isn't made to eat healthily at home [and shut the hell up with your lack of "personal responsibility" in eating properly, you ungrateful brat!]. Anything less from those "personal responsibility" whiners in the Soda-buying thread is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy.
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If you think that anything I said is incompatible with the notion that we should rework our public school cafeterias to include more healthy food, then I think you should go back and reread that thread.
 
"Don't I?" - Glinda

No.

I think you will find that once you step-off your soap-box and spend the time necessary to care for your own family you won't have the time to interfere with other people's families.

I sure that other parents are just as qualified as you in raising thier own children.

You should let them.
 
The Baron said:
"Don't I?" - Glinda

No.

I think you will find that once you step-off your soap-box and spend the time necessary to care for your own family you won't have the time to interfere with other people's families.

I sure that other parents are just as qualified as you in raising thier own children.

You should let them.
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Perhaps, then, the people you should be getting pissed at are ALL THE PEOPLE who ****ed their health and their children's health - and then demanded the government *do something about ti* for so long that the government actually started to listen.

These are the same people who cried out for the government to 'fix the insurance companies' - and that led to the passing of AACHA.

That's actually why I support such measures - because now we're ****ed out of millions because of the AACHA and other measures - all because some people were loud mouthed and whiny and unwilling to accept the results of their own decisions in life.
 
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