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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The topic of this thread is "Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth" and the facts show that indeed they were.

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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Conservative: Does your copy of the Constitution not have the entire First Amendment in it?
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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Conservative: Does your copy of the Constitution not have the entire First Amendment in it?
    its right next to the pages that delegate power to the federal government to pass healthcare and social security



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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its right next to the pages that delegate power to the federal government to pass healthcare and social security
    Perhaps your copy of the Consitution is organized differently than mine is? Article I,Section 8 which authorizes Congress to do those things comes a good deal ahead of the First Amendment in mine.
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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps your copy of the Consitution is organized differently than mine is? Article I,Section 8 which authorizes Congress to do those things comes a good deal ahead of the First Amendment in mine.
    you just failed constitutional law 101

    but I already knew that-when you cite that you pretty much prove to anyone with a law degree that you are clueless on this issue. If your claim was true, the tenth amendment would never had been penned because all congress would have to do is claim something was needed.

    sadly for you I know this stuff back and forwards



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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    seems to me that the litte turtle man has a big problem with the mean old US Supreme Court and their upholding of programs that he just doesn't like very much. Maybe the little turtle man needs to tell them how much he knows and in which direction his knowledge flows.

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    The arguments opposed to the Social Security Act (articulated by justices Butler, McReynolds, and Sutherland in their opinions) were that the social security act went beyond the powers that were granted to the federal government in the Constitution.
    Sounds a great deal in sympathy with our friend the turtle man. And his side lost that argument.

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    its right next to the pages that delegate power to the federal government to pass healthcare and social security
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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    seems to me that the litte turtle man has a big problem with the mean old US Supreme Court and their upholding of programs that he just doesn't like very much. Maybe the little turtle man needs to tell them how much he knows and in which direction his knowledge flows.
    why don't you take a couple hours and fashion a well reasoned argument in support of your position. and you can explain what caused the Supreme Court to Rule the way it did in Schecter Poultry and t hen completely reverse that after the 1936 elections and explain whether that rejection of precedent was based on honest legal reasoning or perhaps the threat of FDR to pack the court and then you can explain if the precedent set by that reversal is really and truly constitutionally sound or merely a bastard offspring of political reality and a power hungry administration

    If you are as learned of the USC as you claim it should only take a couple hours

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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Your problem is with the US Supreme Court and its interpretation of the Powers of Congress in Article I, Section 8. Obviously you were not there to bowl them over with your voluminous knowledge of both their duties and the powers of Congress or we would not have any Social Security program today. But that is water under the bridge.

    And i think its so cute you how have to pronounce people failing just because they disagree with you - even though history does also.
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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Conservative: Does your copy of the Constitution not have the entire First Amendment in it?
    Yes, it sure does, does your? Cite for me the separation of church and state for me.

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    Re: Were the Bush Tax Cuts Good for Growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The country was on "sound economic footing" before the entitlement programs began, and politicians began pissing the money away in order to get votes. If Warren Buffet wants to give away money to the politicians in Washington, good for him. But it would be just as insane as Ted Turner giving his money to the United Nations.
    We're not talking about the man making political contributions to one political candidate or a political party. Buffet is just saying that over the last decade (at least) the wealthy have been given tax breaks and, as such, have amassed great wealth. They've had their opportunity to become even more successful and do what Republicans have claimed 'trickle-down economics" should have done, but now it's time for those who benefitted most from generous tax laws to start giving back more for the sake of their country.

    Republicans/Conservatives talk all this talk of patriatism, but the moment someone whom they've supported (i.e., a wealthy individual) speaks out against one of their core political mainstays (i.e., don't tax the rich, give them tax relief so that they can create jobs) and is proven wrong about it, suddenly this individual's credibility is called into question and the message becomes, "screw him! If he wants throw his money away, let him". That's a rather weak and pathetic line to take for someone of a weathy class your party claims to support.

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