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You seem to miss the point as do far too many. You just gave Obama credit for saving the banks and I pointed out that TARP was Bush's program and that is what many credit as saving the banks. I didn't support TARP and still don't but unlike you, I understand it.

What did Obama do to save the economy since economists and Warren Buffet say it was TARP?

I didn't give credit to Obama or Bush.. I said the economy is better, and you didn't seem to object to that. However, you jumped on the opportunity to tell me all the credit for the economy goes to Bush..

Let's see.. you call yourself conservative and you can't have a conversation in a thread about Palin, without bringing Obama into it. You are biased. I am convinced that you wouldn't give Obama credit where credit is due.

I also find it interesting that you were against TARP but then say that is saved the economy.. So you were against saving the economy and our banking system. Why do you hate our country so much?

And you can try to deny all the facts you want, but Obama came into office and spent the first 100 days on the economy. He extended TARP and other controversial bailouts, which btw there was economists support for also.

Now go ahead and tell me that Obama's bailouts destroyed the economy while Bush's repaired the economy.. and all during Obama's admin.
 
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Obama sat in this Church for 20 years and claims he didn't know what was going on, that should have disqualified him on the spot but Obama didn't run the Church so to me that shows poor judgment on his part.

Irrelevent. All you are doing is proving that your issue isn't about being qualified for the job. It's about personal distaste for Obama.


Being Mayor of a City still has personnel, budgetary, and capital responsibilities none of which Obama has ever had.

She wasn't the mayor of a city. She handled a job that any idiot can handle.

She then went on to the Governor of Alaska from 2006-2009 and had the highest approval ratings of any Governor on record. Must have been doing a pretty good job. Obama never ran a state.

Appeal to popularity is a fallacy.

Obama has run a country. Palin never did that. She also couldn't hack it running a state.

She quit her job, ergo she couldn't have been siuccesful. She was a failure, regardless of how popular she was.



I don't like the fact that she quit either but understand it. She saved the people of Alaska millions in legal bills and still left with a high approval rating. Obama quit his job as Senator if in fact he ever really did his job as Senator. He spent most of his first term campaigning for President. Name for me any significant piece of legislation Obama authored.

Creating excuses for her quitting doesn't negate the fact that she is a quitter, plain and simple. She is is not even qualified to run a lawnmower with her resume.

And getting promoted isn't quitting. Obama didn't quit. Had he not received his promotion, he would have returned to his position as senator.

Her Approval Ratings don't define a failure. Do you know why she resigned? Before calling her a failure don't you think you should find out?

Her approval ratings mean nothing. Appeal to popularity is still a fallacy.

Why she resigned is also irrelvent to the fact that people who quit have failed at what they were doing. If I quit running a race because I twist my ankle, it doesn't chang ethe fact that I failed to win the race. She failed and she is a failure. She choose to cut and run instead fo taking her opponents on directly.

That's cowardice on top of failure.

She used budgetary concerns as an excuse.

Some disagree, he was paid a salary to be Senator, go to the Congressional record and see how many votes he missed. he was too busy campaigning for President in 2007-2008 to do the job he was elected to do. I call that a failure.

He was my senator. I have no complaints about his performance. His not voting didn't cause any harm, IMO.

Upon what do you base your statement that Bush was a dismal failure?

I didn't make that statemnt. I said if we used the same types "qualifications" you are using for Obama (Approval ratings, economic collapse, mid-term elections, etc) we can only conclude that he was a dismal failure.

I said that we should let history be the judge for both of them (not just for Bush as you wish to do).

Historians will judge Bush a lot different than those who claim he was a failure.

First, you do not know this to be true. Historians may judge him as a dismal failure. You are simply making stuff up when you say what they will do. Please don't pretend to be psychic.

Second, it's hilarious that you are engaging in self-pwnage like this. You illustrate the hypocricy of your partisanship by holding Bush to a different standard than Obama.


Interesting that you make statements parroting the MSM without looking at the Alaska economy and her poll numbers there. That just parrots the MSM.

Oh for ****'s sake. :roll: The MSM boogey man rears it's head. WTF is up with modern conservatives playing ht evictim so much. It' snot our fault it's the meeeeedia.

Ironic when one actually takes the time to note that the morons in the media bitching about mainstream media (such as Fox NEws pundits and Rush Limbaugh) ARE the Main Stream Media. Even Sarah Palin is a member of the MSM.

That's the irony of this victim mentality that is so prevalent today. It's a friggin' joke.


Obama is from the Chicago Political Machine. I spent a lot of time in Chicago and it is the most corrupt political machine in the country. Obama won because of that machine and because he had a D after his name.

I know all about Chicago politics. I've lived here my whole life. Its a helluva lot harder to be a politician here than it is to be a mayor of a donut shop.


Name for me any accomplishment as a state or U.S. Senator?

You know this is irrelevent to a discussion about current qualifications, right?

How can someone so brilliant take an economy and lose 4 million jobs and add 3 trillion to the debt?

Who recently said "How can anyone blame the President alone for the financial meltdown?"

:lol:

I think that person should answer their own question.

On that issue I assure you Palin wouldn't have thrown the stimulus money down a big hole or signed Obamacare. She wouldn't have bailed out teacher's unions or taken over GM/chrysler.

Whoop de woo. Nothing to do with qualifications. Just partisan agreement.

(Stick to the topic you introduced. Don't just move the goalposts because it's been proven false)



I would almost vote for Palin simply due to the vitriol on the part of the left

I would argue that you would vote for Palin simply due to vitriol on the right. You try and pretend it has to qualifications, but she is less qualified for the job than obama is. That is undeniable fact.

but given the choice between the Obama results and the Palin resume, I would take Palin.

Why do you judge Obama's results right away, but give Bush the honor of allowing history to decide? Is it pure partisan hypocricy, or can you give a legitimate argument?

And Palin's resume looks like **** compared to Obama's. Anyone who can look at things in a non-partisan fashion can see that.


That sitting President will have to run on his results and based upon those results he needs to go back to Chicago.

More evidsence that you have a double standard. But either way, it has nothing to do with Qualifications for President.


Translation, I love how he talks and don't care about the results.

Don't ever try to get a job as a translator. Obviously, you didn't understand what I had said and you have claimed to translate.



Qualifications today regarding Obama are irrelevant, he got the job.

Then why did you bring them up?

The truth is that qualifications will always be irrelevant unless it's the person that the partisan hacks disagree who can be attacked as "unqualified".

If someone supports palin becuas ethey agree with her, they are honest andthier stance deserves to be treated with respect. If they come up with some line of bull**** trying to claim that she is more qualified than Obama, they are dishonest and their stance deserves to be treated with disrespect.


Don't know who will be the GOP Candidate in 2012 but I assure you that the Obama agenda is bankrupting the country and is unsustainable.

More talking points from the MSM that are irrelvent to the actual discussion..

The country spoke on Nov. 2 so more and more people are waking up.

Like they did in 2006 and 2008?

:lol:

When I vote in 2012 I will look at the resume of the candidate running against Obama and the Obama results.

When you vote in 2012, you'll vote for whomever is running against Obama, even if it was a retarded monkey-fish-frog who was previously unemployed.

It has jack **** to do with qualifications. The only qualification you care about i s"not Obama". If that one is met, your vote will go that way.

If that candidate is Palin, which I doubt, I will vote for Palin and almost any Republican over Obama.

Exactly. So give up the Qualification nonsense.
 
=SheWolf;1059107288]I didn't give credit to Obama or Bush.. I said the economy is better, and you didn't seem to object to that. However, you jumped on the opportunity to tell me all the credit for the economy goes to Bush..

Let's see.. you call yourself conservative and you can't have a conversation in a thread about Palin, without bringing Obama into it. You are biased. I am convinced that you wouldn't give Obama credit where credit is due.

I asked you what Obama has done that you want me to give him credit for and didn't get an answer so try again. I supported Obama's surge in Afghanistan, too bad he waited three months and didn't send the commander what he requested. Also too bad that he fired the Afghanistan Commander, replaced him with his chosen commander then fired him only to bring back Bush's Commander.

I also find it interesting that you were against TARP but then say that is saved the economy.. So you were against saving the economy and our banking system. Why do you hate our country so much?

Stop projecting, I said that I didn't support TARP and stand by that, I did say that economists claim that TARP saved the economy, Warren Buffet claims that TARP saved the economy, and I rightly pointed out that was Bush's program, not Obama's. So tell me what Obama did that saved the economy or as he stated, "brought us back from the brink?"

And you can try to deny all the facts you want, but Obama came into office and spent the first 100 days on the economy. He extended TARP and other controversial bailouts, which btw there was economists support for also.

Yes, he did and no he didn't extend TARP and in fact hasn't spent all the money from TARP as there is about 200 billion left. Nor did he apply repayment to the deficit. Stop buying what you are told and do some research, this is embarrassing.

Now go ahead and tell me that Obama's bailouts destroyed the economy while Bush's repaired the economy.. and all during Obama's admin.[/QUOTE]
 
I think it's funny that Conservative argues Palin is qualified by pointing out how poorly qualified Obama is, and making comparisons... I mean, if I wanted to convince how good my Lexus was I wouldn't take it to a junkyard for comparison.
 
I think it's funny that Conservative argues Palin is qualified by pointing out how poorly qualified Obama is, and making comparisons... I mean, if I wanted to convince how good my Lexus was I wouldn't take it to a junkyard for comparison.
Welcome to the two-party duopoly. :(
 
Sorry, Tucker, but it isn't about distaste for Obama, it is about results. Give me something that Obama did that made the economy better because the results sure don't show it and that is all that matters, results, not rhetoric.

You seem to read what you want to read so this is pointless. In 2012 Obama will have his results to run on and he will face only one other person, a Republican, that has a chance to win. I will hold Obama accountable for his results and right now there appear to be 12 possible candidates but who knows. Everyone of them is more qualified than Obama was and when that candidate surfaces I will view that candidate and Obama's record. There is no question that the qualifications of anyone of those 12 will look better than the Obama record unless he changes course like Clinton did. I think he is too much of an ideologue to do that thus the results will continue to be as bad as they are now and the GOP will be on record showing where they tried to make a difference.

I don't like Obama policies as they are radical leftwing, pro govt. and anti business and anti growth. For those that hated Bush's results, how can you say Obama are better? Obama put Bush spending on steroids and with all that spending we have 4 million more unemployed. Suggest you take the blinders off and actually get the facts.
 
I think it's funny that Conservative argues Palin is qualified by pointing out how poorly qualified Obama is, and making comparisons... I mean, if I wanted to convince how good my Lexus was I wouldn't take it to a junkyard for comparison.

I love it, all this attention from a group of liberals who don't have a clue.

Palin, Mayor and Governor

Obama, Community Agitator and one term Senator who spent most of his time campaigning for the next job.

Case closed
 
I love it, all this attention from a group of liberals who don't have a clue.
The only liberal on this thread for the past several pages has been liblady.

Tilt at windmills much?
 
The only liberal on this thread for the past several pages has been liblady.

Tilt at windmills much?

If you don't want to be considered a liberal then don't defend Obama policies because his entire economic policy is liberal
 
I asked you what Obama has done that you want me to give him credit for and didn't get an answer so try again. I supported Obama's surge in Afghanistan, too bad he waited three months and didn't send the commander what he requested. Also too bad that he fired the Afghanistan Commander, replaced him with his chosen commander then fired him only to bring back Bush's Commander.

Obama hasn't done anything I really like.. I did not vote for him. Just because I think Palin is a horrible candidate, it doesn't mean I am a partisan hack like you.


Stop projecting, I said that I didn't support TARP and stand by that, I did say that economists claim that TARP saved the economy, Warren Buffet claims that TARP saved the economy, and I rightly pointed out that was Bush's program, not Obama's.

Pathetic.. backpeddle much?

You said the credit for the improvement in the economy goes to Bush's TARP.

So do you believe it saved the economy or not?

Yes, he did and no he didn't extend TARP and in fact hasn't spent all the money from TARP as there is about 200 billion left. Nor did he apply repayment to the deficit. Stop buying what you are told and do some research, this is embarrassing.

Brilliant.. I am half right and half wrong, and you're telling me to do research.

Obama administration extends TARP deadline - Los Angeles Times

Maybe you should do your own research, because it looks like your wrong and wrong.

Now continue... go ahead and tell me that Obama's bailouts destroyed the economy while Bush's repaired the economy.. and all during Obama's admin.
 
you and most men. i'm sure she would be fine if you kept her mouth full.

Wowwwwww....really? SO without knowing anything about her you assume she is a slut that would be happy if random men used her as a cum recepticle? So...if the same were said about oh...lets just say random unknown liberal lady politicians (or web blog posters) that would be acceptable?
 
Wowwwwww....really? SO without knowing anything about her you assume she is a slut that would be happy if random men used her as a cum recepticle? So...if the same were said about oh...lets just say random unknown liberal lady politicians (or web blog posters) that would be acceptable?

i was making a joke with coronado. why so serious?
 
SheWolf;1059107353]Obama hasn't done anything I really like.. I did not vote for him. Just because I think Palin is a horrible candidate, it doesn't mean I am a partisan hack like you.

Partisan hack is a term used by someone who has nothing of value to say and cannot refute the data presented. I am indeed a conservative and proud of it, the fact that you cannot name anything that Obama has done that you like is quite telling but more accurate than you would think. Welcome aboard, you can now change your leanings to Conservative.


Pathetic.. backpeddle much?

You said the credit for the improvement in the economy goes to Bush's TARP.

I really am worried about you. I didn't say it, Economist said it, Warren Buffet said it. Focus on what I actually posted and not what you think I posted.

So do you believe it saved the economy or not?

I didn't think the economy was in the straits that the media was telling us. I would have let the market correct it but not being privy to what our elected officials knew I don't know for sure. I do know that Obama didn't do jack to save us and in fact made the economy worse as evidenced by the unemployment, economic growth, and debt.

Brilliant.. I am half right and half wrong, and you're telling me to do research.

Obama administration extends TARP deadline - Los Angeles Times

He extended the deadline, suggest you go to the TARP webpage instead of the LA Times to get how much money was spent and what the program was supposed to do. Tell me why when the recession ended in June 2009 that TARP had to be extended? Where is the repayment?

Maybe you should do your own research, because it looks like your wrong and wrong.

Now continue... go ahead and tell me that Obama's bailouts destroyed the economy while Bush's repaired the economy.. and all during Obama's admin.

LOL, I haven't seen much evidence of any research on your part. What bailouts of Obama saved the economy? Think that GM/Chrysler buyout saved the economy? Saved the unions but not the economy. Saving teachers jobs? How about making states responsible for their own expenses?

I would be happy to give Obama credit but like you just posted,
Obama hasn't done anything I really like.
Good answer because the results are the same.
 
i was making a joke with coronado. why so serious?

Actually...Im not...I like it! After all it gives me license to make careless jokes about liberal women, their bleeding heart tendencies, and of course the obvious connection that Nancy Pelosi like all typical liberal women dream of getting it from behind by homeless men...cuz thats funny! Considering how easily liberals attack women (ummm...conservative women) it makes that turnabout=fair play a laugh riot. Why...remember when Monica Lewinsky was just a slut...Juanita Broderick just a homely chick grateful for Bills attention (and therefore not 'really' a rape victim), etc.

I guess I just dont usually roll that way. I mean...sure...I'll take an occasional shot at Palins 'smarts' (tho Im more likely to take a shot at the people that support her)...
 
Actually...Im not...I like it! After all it gives me license to make careless jokes about liberal women, their bleeding heart tendencies, and of course the obvious connection that Nancy Pelosi like all typical liberal women dream of getting it from behind by homeless men...cuz thats funny! Considering how easily liberals attack women (ummm...conservative women) it makes that turnabout=fair play a laugh riot. Why...remember when Monica Lewinsky was just a slut...Juanita Broderick just a homely chick grateful for Bills attention (and therefore not 'really' a rape victim), etc.

I guess I just dont usually roll that way. I mean...sure...I'll take an occasional shot at Palins 'smarts' (tho Im more likely to take a shot at the people that support her)...

oh please......it was a joke.
 
Partisan hack is a term used by someone who has nothing of value to say and cannot refute the data presented. I am indeed a conservative and proud of it, the fact that you cannot name anything that Obama has done that you like is quite telling but more accurate than you would think. Welcome aboard, you can now change your leanings to Conservative.

I don't agree with Conservatives on a lot of things, like social issues. What's wrong with being an Independent?


I really am worried about you. I didn't say it, Economist said it, Warren Buffet said it. Focus on what I actually posted and not what you think I posted.

You said Bush stabilized the banks with tarp.. Post 104. Government intervention and bailing out the reckless saved the banks, according to you... Post 104!

I didn't think the economy was in the straits that the media was telling us. I would have let the market correct it but not being privy to what our elected officials knew I don't know for sure. I do know that Obama didn't do jack to save us and in fact made the economy worse as evidenced by the unemployment, economic growth, and debt.

So the media was blowing things out of proportion when the economy was bad when Bush was in charge, but when Obama took over.. then the economy really is on the brink!!! OMG!

Obama did do jack to save the economy.. The same type of jack, Bush did to save the economy; bailouts and stimuls. The question isn't weather or not he did ANYTHING, but weather or not he did the RIGHT things.

He extended the deadline, suggest you go to the TARP webpage instead of the LA Times to get how much money was spent and what the program was supposed to do. Tell me why when the recession ended in June 2009 that TARP had to be extended? Where is the repayment?

If you are so convinced that you are right, then why is it so d**n hard to enlighten me right here on this board? Why should I have to go to this and that website, and read and read until I am convinced you are right?

That is weak!

If you are trying to convince me of something, you have to present the facts and the argument yourself..
LOL, I haven't seen much evidence of any research on your part. What bailouts of Obama saved the economy? Think that GM/Chrysler buyout saved the economy? Saved the unions but not the economy. Saving teachers jobs? How about making states responsible for their own expenses?

I would be happy to give Obama credit but like you just posted, Good answer because the results are the same.

I have talked to you in other threads. I know you make big claims and loosely cite things is speech but never post links, even when pressed to do so..
 
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