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    Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Consumer rights advocate and perennial presidential vote-splitter Ralph Nader is here to help. Not only has he joined forces with the Electric Privacy Information Center and the Council on American-Islamic Relations to protest the machines, he also told The Daily Caller that he paid a visit this week to Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform meeting to recruit conservatives in his fight against “federal fondlers.”

    “I said to ‘em, ‘I want to say a few words to this group, who are fully employed, fully insured, and fully clothed.’ And I said, ‘Get ready for naked insecurity.’”

    Airport X-ray machines, says Nader, are a bipartisan issue. Republican Senators Tom Coburn, Susan Collins, and Richard Burr have all raised concerns that the machines emit a dangerous amount of radiation, “and you should know,” Nader added, “that the Libertarian Party, at my urging, came out with a tough statement last week against them.”
    Alright Ralph! Its been long overdue to dismantle the TSA and to fully privatize airports. Let them handle their own security.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
    It's in there. It's just being ignored.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    You have the right to refuse the x-ray check....you just have to go through the feel up...errrr...pat down.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.

    Amendment IV.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Consumer rights advocate and perennial presidential vote-splitter Ralph Nader is here to help. Not only has he joined forces with the Electric Privacy Information Center and the Council on American-Islamic Relations to protest the machines, he also told The Daily Caller that he paid a visit this week to Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform meeting to recruit conservatives in his fight against “federal fondlers.”

    “I said to ‘em, ‘I want to say a few words to this group, who are fully employed, fully insured, and fully clothed.’ And I said, ‘Get ready for naked insecurity.’”

    Airport X-ray machines, says Nader, are a bipartisan issue. Republican Senators Tom Coburn, Susan Collins, and Richard Burr have all raised concerns that the machines emit a dangerous amount of radiation, “and you should know,” Nader added, “that the Libertarian Party, at my urging, came out with a tough statement last week against them.”
    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Alright Ralph! Its been long overdue to dismantle the TSA and to fully privatize airports. Let them handle their own security.

    Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’ | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment
    They, and Nader, are morons...

    Radiation risk low with whole-body airport scanners | Reuters
    There are two types of machines -- millimeter wavelength imaging and backscatter X-ray scanners. Both are used to see under clothes and identify unusual objects.

    Only one -- backscatter X-ray machines -- expose individuals to ionizing radiation such as that used in common medical X-rays.

    But the radiation levels are well below the threshold that could be considered a risk to an individual's health, said Dr. James Thrall of the American College of Radiology and chief of radiology at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.

    "All of the concerns that we have about the medical use of X-rays really don't apply to these devices," Thrall said in a telephone interview.

    "The exposure is extremely low and the energy of the X-rays is also very, very low," he said.

    "When X-rays are used for medical imaging purposes, they have to be energetic enough to get through the human body. The X-rays used in the backscatter machines in airports have such low energy that they literally bounce off the skin. That is what backscatter implies," Thrall said.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dulcinea View Post
    Amendment IV.
    If this were true, then any seach of you personal property before boarding would be a violation, would it not?


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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If this were true, then any seach of you personal property before boarding would be a violation, would it not?
    The Supreme Court has reasoned that it is not, because when you go to an airport you expect to be searched. Why? Because people know that they will be searched at the airport.

    I guess circular logic is okay if you're the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
    Not sure if you're being serious or just emphasizing how ridiculous it is that we're being pressed/bullied/coerced into using technology that's not only "revealing" but potentially hazardous, but if the former...

    Wouldn't it be easier just to apply public pressure on politicians to ease or change the federal security regulations? Some might argue a step further to abolish the TSA.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Not sure if you're being serious or just emphasizing how ridiculous it is that we're being pressed/bullied/coerced into using technology that's not only "revealing" but potentially hazardous, but if the former...

    Wouldn't it be easier just to apply public pressure on politicians to ease or change the federal security regulations? Some might argue a step further to abolish the TSA.
    People are too easily cowed these days with the "national security" bogeyman. The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."

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