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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If this were true, then any seach of you personal property before boarding would be a violation, would it not?
    I believe that's true of international travel, but certainly not domestic travel.

    I think there's actually a SCOTUS decision that says the feds have the right to look through everything on your laptop if you're crossing the border.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    People are too easily cowed these days with the "national security" bogeyman. The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."
    If what's being reported reflects a general trend, it's almost like they've been trained to not only harrass, but humiliate people who "opt out." I've only read 2 or 3 cases, but in each one the agents drew attention to the person by yelling "we've got an opt out!" and perform the pat down in plain view of other travelers -- it's like they're saying to those people in the security lines "you sure want to bypass the x-ray?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."
    On second thought, no. It's not harrassment. What we've got here is a failure to communicate. Some folks you just can't reach, which is the way they want it. Well, they GET it.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    It should be interesting to hear the reports on air travel now that we are moving into the busiest time of the year. According to a CNN report, Growing backlash against TSA body scanners, pat-downs:

    A growing pilot and passenger revolt over full-body scans and what many consider intrusive pat-downs couldn't have come at a worse time for the nation's air travel system.

    Thanksgiving, the busiest travel time of the year, is less than two weeks away.

    Grassroots groups are urging travelers to either not fly or to protest by opting out of the full-body scanners and undergo time-consuming pat-downs instead.
    It's probably a good thing for the Dems that elections have already been held.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    And the hits just keep coming...

    TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check.

    Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.

    And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    It should be interesting to hear the reports on air travel now that we are moving into the busiest time of the year.
    I don't like it, and I don't think it helps security since you can opt to leave if you get picked for the "enhanced screening."

    But I don't think it's enough to keep me from seeing my family over the holidays. I expect many would feel the same way.

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    You make a good argument for a road trip. I am curious to see what the public reaction will be when we hit the Thanksgiving travel peak.

    Big Brother is watching...

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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    A point being missed here....
    Pay attention kids, if you don't stay in school and learn something useful, your only choice for work will be flipping burgers, or feeling up fat slobs at the airport....
    Of course, if you are the type to get off on that, go for it.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    The terrorists used airplanes, so now we're going overboard on airport security. What will they target next? We are vulnerable in so many ways, that simply reacting to what they've done before isn't going to keep us safe. So far, security has been a reactive, not proactive:

    The jihidis hijacked airplanes and used them as weapons, so we tightened airport security.
    Some idiot tried to set off a shoe bomb, so now we have to take off our shoes. I used to joke that it was a good thing that he didn't use an underwear bomb, but guess what? It's no longer a joke.\

    So, now we have to submit to a body search. What's next? The cockroaches will try another tack, and we'll tighten security there, then they'll find something else to do.

    As for bombs, just train bomb sniffing dogs. No one is going to be able to smuggle explosives, or anything else, past a dog's nose.
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    All the money spent at airports in response to 9/11 would have been better spent lobbing cruise missiles in the direction of those Arab countries who refuse to root out the terrorists within their own borders. And that includes the SA elite/royal family who donate money to the cause of terrorism....
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    Re: Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    All the money spent at airports in response to 9/11 would have been better spent lobbing cruise missiles in the direction of those Arab countries who refuse to root out the terrorists within their own borders. And that includes the SA elite/royal family who donate money to the cause of terrorism....
    I'll drink to that!
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