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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is what it says in Wikipedia:
    The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m....And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported.
    Did Beck leave out the part that Soros didn't know what he was doing? That sounds like typical Beck to me.
    Sounds like what he didn't know was explained to him by his father? Anyway...

    Do we know how many of those lawyers he delivered the slips of paper to were in fact deported and ended up in Auschwitz?

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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    amazing ain't it that people that are for making wealth are so much against a person that made wealth ain't it?
    Huh? Who is against Soros because he's wealthy? No one that I know. Read up on the information about Soros. He's not a good guy.


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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    Huh? Who is against Soros because he's wealthy? No one that I know. Read up on the information about Soros. He's not a good guy.

    He is no worse than the Koch brothers.

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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    He is no worse than the Koch brothers.
    How so? The Koch brothers take delight in bringing down economies? They think of themselves as some sort of 'god'?


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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    How so? The Koch brothers take delight in bringing down economies? They think of themselves as some sort of 'god'?

    Plenty has already been posted about them around here already and it is kinda boring to re-hash it all again

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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Plenty has already been posted about them around here already and it is kinda boring to re-hash it all again
    In other words, you just threw that comparison out there with zero proof and you don't want to take the time to find out if your assumption was right or wrong because you really want it to be right, but it might be wrong. So why even look?


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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    In other words, you just threw that comparison out there with zero proof and you don't want to take the time to find out if your assumption was right or wrong because you really want it to be right, but it might be wrong. So why even look?

    No, i said it has been done to death pretty much. I'm not a fan of Soros either. And plenty has been posted about him to around here

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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    How so? The Koch brothers take delight in bringing down economies? They think of themselves as some sort of 'god'?
    I need some proof of you implying that George Soros brought "down economies." After all, if you are going to smear a man, you need proof.


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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    Huh? Who is against Soros because he's wealthy? No one that I know. Read up on the information about Soros. He's not a good guy.
    Citations please.


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    Re: ADL:Glenn Beck's Remarks About Soros And The Holocaust 'Offensive And Over The To

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    That's like going to the cat to find out what the mouse said. Listen to HIS SHOW -- his own words -- not websites that take little clips here and there while adding their own commentary.

    Meh. It's probably no use. You think Media Matters is unbiased.
    You mean they do exactly what Glenn Beck has been doing to Soros all week? Showing little edited clips and then conflating the edited versions into lies? I just can't believe people are really considering this stuff plausible.

    Just one good example.

    BECK: I want you to know and remember this: In the last three episodes, I'm not making claims, I'm not asking questions, I'm not telling you statements of fact. What I'm telling you is, watch George Soros in his own words. Where is the country headed? George Soros.

    [start video clip]

    QUESTIONER: The question is what whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence in the United States instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans.

    SOROS: I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup.
    [end video clip]

    BECK: It's a problem for him that people in China or France don't get to vote, find out who sits in Congress. Is it for you? You need to make a choice. Mr. Soros has made his choice. I have made mine. Tonight you decide.
    You can go here and watch the full video that Beck took the clip from and selectively edited.
    U.S. Foreign Policy - C-SPAN Video Library
    First, in context you can see that Soros was specifically talking about out foreign policy and Iraq and Afghanistan. Something that Beck completely left out.
    QUESTIONER: My name is Lee Retiener, and sir, it seems to me four options have arisen today, only one of which is new and hasn't been spoken of yet. Your option of creating a new community of democracies, which in a sense is pronouncing the U.N. a little bit dead [...] The second is improving the United Nations. Its failures -- I don't mean in the Security Council but over the past 20 years and through the dominance of the Group of 77 and the new world economic order -- gave Wolfowitz the right, the power, and the philosophical justification, and those like him, to do what he has now done. That's part of the answer to the question that was asked earlier. So improving the United Nations, which is a long-sought-after goal, is one to which great effort would have to be given. But there's another way, which would be entirely unconstitutional, but I advance it not for the sake of humor, but only to help thought -- which is to create a third branch of Congress for foreign governments only. Proportionate representation in the United States Congress so that the Chinese can legitimately give money, so that Israel can give us money --

    [unintelligible]

    The question is whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence into the United States instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans, which hasn't worked and is not about to start working.

    SOROS: Look, I think -- I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup. I don't think you can correct it by giving the Chinese government a vote in Congress. But it is a flaw, and I think this is where American leadership is needed, to take into account and respect the interests of others as well, in order to retain the dominant position we currently enjoy.
    There you go. Argue this case if you really want anyone to take him as any more than a circus clown.

    He presents a selectively edited clip, left out all context, claimed that "it's a problem for him (Soros) that people in china and France don't get a vote" in congress, and in the very next part of the clip that he left out Soros explains that that isn't something we should do.

    Are there any questions? Is there really any way that anybody can spin this into anything more than either Glenn Beck carelessly cutting and pasting clips like an idiot cause he knows his followers would never dare back check him or Glenn Beck just flat out lied.

    This isn't some outside source, some liberal media watchdog, these are Glenn Becks actual words and the actual video that he showed. Please try to defend him on this one.
    Last edited by roughdraft274; 11-12-10 at 01:27 PM.

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