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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

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    In less than 2 years the economic policy of Obama has lost 4 million jobs and added 3 trillion to the debt. His economic policy went into effect in February 2009 and Reagan's didn't get his passed until the fall of 1981. Reagan and Bush's policy was pro growth and pro private sector, Obama's is pro public sector growth and massive expansion of entitlements. The American people spoke on Nov. 2. Reagan lost 26 House seats in 1982 in the midst of a much worse economic recession whereas Obama has lost a minimum of 63 seats. The American people know the difference but still there are those like you that will never get it. Why such passion for the Obama economic policy?
    There is a lot of parallel with Regan’s first two years, with the exception on an unneeded war hanging over Obamas head. Reagan had over ten percent unemployed so does Obama. Reagan took a drubbing in his first midterms Obama took a bigger one in his midterms.

    The big diff is that we have sent most of our manufacturing offshore and most of the stimulus, as pitiful an amount as it was, stimulated people in China ,India Bangalish…wherever. What we should do is take about twice the original amount and put it into stimulating our own decaying infrastructure.

    Now your turn, get all fiscal conservative for me while you turned a blind eye to the last Presidency and wave the pom poms for the original deficit hawk, the gipper.
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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

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    There is a lot of parallel with Regan’s first two years, with the exception on an unneeded war hanging over Obamas head. Reagan had over ten percent unemployed so does Obama. Reagan took a drubbing in his first midterms Obama took a bigger one in his midterms.

    The big diff is that we have sent most of our manufacturing offshore and most of the stimulus, as pitiful an amount as it was, stimulated people in China ,India Bangalish…wherever. What we should do is take about twice the original amount and put it into stimulating our own decaying infrastructure.

    Now your turn, get all fiscal conservative for me while you turned a blind eye to the last Presidency and wave the pom poms for the original deficit hawk, the gipper.
    There may be comparison in the economic conditions but certainly no comparison in the economic policy and that is all that matters. Reagan and Bush were both pro private sector and pro growth, Obama is pro public sector and wealth redistribution. Obama's ecomomic policies are unsustainable and destined for failure whereas Reagan and Bush both had the support of the people with their economic plans. I am still waiting for an explanation as to how a recession that ended in June 2009 could have more unemployed today than during the 2009 recession year? Check out both Reagan and Bush's employment numbers one year after the recession ended. That tells you all you need to know about the economic plans.

    I will ask you the same question that I asked Disneydude on another thread, who gave Bush the authority to run up the debt and authorized every dime he spent? How much of that debt was 2007-2008 when Democrats controlled the purse strings?

    What you and others don't seem to understand is that Obama has put that spending you are condemning for Bush on steroids and already is on tract for more debt in 4 years that Bush had in 8 and that is with the Iraq War winding down. No one turned a blind eye to the last Presidency but anyone concerned about that spending cannot support what is going on now.

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

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    What you and others don't seem to understand is that Obama has put that spending you are condemning for Bush on steroids and already is on tract for more debt in 4 years that Bush had in 8 and that is with the Iraq War winding down. No one turned a blind eye to the last Presidency but anyone concerned about that spending cannot support what is going on now.



    Looks like you got your crystal ball out of hock again but its still conjecture on your part what the budget will look like six years from now when Obamas two terms are up.
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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post



    Looks like you got your crystal ball out of hock again but its still conjecture on your part what the budget will look like six years from now when Obamas two terms are up.
    What is it in the Obama economic plan that is similar to Reagans and thus will generate the same kind of results? I asked you why you support what Obama is doing and this is what I get? How about a little intellectual honesty for maybe the first time in your life?

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

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    What is it in the Obama economic plan that is similar to Reagans and thus will generate the same kind of results?
    They both had deficits bigger than all the previous deficits put together.

    I asked you why you support what Obama is doing and this is what I get?
    Yep,like bugs says… TTTHAATS ALL FOLKS.

    How about a little intellectual honesty for maybe the first time in your life?
    Ah yes it’s a real treat to be inferred to as intellectual dishonest by someone that post something like this “The recession of 1981-82 was worse than the 2007-2009 recession as I lived and worked during both.”

    The worst recession in modern history was the 1973-1975 recession.


    The one were in now is worse than the one you referred to. Now letslet the rest of the forum judge who is “intellectual dishonest’.

    You’re a real hoot conservative, post a string of bull**** and have the balls to call someone else “intellectual dishonest”.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    They both had deficits bigger than all the previous deficits put together.



    Yep,like bugs says… TTTHAATS ALL FOLKS.


    Ah yes it’s a real treat to be inferred to as intellectual dishonest by someone that post something like this “The recession of 1981-82 was worse than the 2007-2009 recession as I lived and worked during both.”

    The worst recession in modern history was the 1973-1975 recession.


    The one were in now is worse than the one you referred to. Now letslet the rest of the forum judge who is “intellectual dishonest’.

    You’re a real hoot conservative, post a string of bull**** and have the balls to call someone else “intellectual dishonest”.
    That's all Folks, the party is over, no intellectual honesty here as no response to the post. This one worse than 81-82? By what standards? Interest rates? Inflation? Unemployment? Becareful, your partisanship and political ideology is showing. Did you get your IPhone or IPad?

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There may be comparison in the economic conditions but certainly no comparison in the economic policy and that is all that matters. Reagan and Bush were both pro private sector and pro growth, Obama is pro public sector and wealth redistribution. Obama's ecomomic policies are unsustainable and destined for failure whereas Reagan and Bush both had the support of the people with their economic plans. I am still waiting for an explanation as to how a recession that ended in June 2009 could have more unemployed today than during the 2009 recession year? Check out both Reagan and Bush's employment numbers one year after the recession ended. That tells you all you need to know about the economic plans.

    I will ask you the same question that I asked Disneydude on another thread, who gave Bush the authority to run up the debt and authorized every dime he spent? How much of that debt was 2007-2008 when Democrats controlled the purse strings?

    What you and others don't seem to understand is that Obama has put that spending you are condemning for Bush on steroids and already is on tract for more debt in 4 years that Bush had in 8 and that is with the Iraq War winding down. No one turned a blind eye to the last Presidency but anyone concerned about that spending cannot support what is going on now.
    what is with your continued fascination with steroids?

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what is with your continued fascination with steroids?
    Best term I could think of to define the Obama spending

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    There is a major difference between a recession that resulted from curbing inflation, and a recession that rendered the global financial system insolvent without bailouts. China enacted a stimulus package that was nearly 10% of GDP, and they were not nearly as shaken as the US.



    Private insurance companies can easily compete with a public option because they have the ability to offer policies tailored to the individual, and from that they derive a great deal of value. As it stands, 62% of bankruptcies in the U.S. are health care related. Physical and mental health is a critical component to a productive workforce, and this extends beyond the job, e.g. employee dependents. The average cost of an independent health care plan for a family of 4 is around $16,000, and that excludes medical deductibles, out of pocket expenses, etc....

    Our health care system operates on the basis of unsustainable price increases.
    Obama has been just great for Canada, so credit where it's due.

    By not drilling for oil it not only assures us of a long term sales, but Alberta is sucking all the oil out from under the northern United States, as in Montana. And on 'taxing the rich" , doctors and entrepreneurs also fall under that category, and Canada is getting them. Of course Canada's much lower corporate tax rate also helps.

    Until the United States realizes what made their country great, and it was not socialism by the way, they will continue to flounder, and eventually go the way of western Europe.

    More doctors returning to Canada than leaving, first time in 30 years | Physicians for a National Health Program

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama has been just great for Canada, so credit where it's due.

    By not drilling for oil it not only assures us of a long term sales, but Alberta is sucking all the oil out from under the northern United States, as in Montana. And on 'taxing the rich" , doctors and entrepreneurs also fall under that category, and Canada is getting them. Of course Canada's much lower corporate tax rate also helps.

    Until the United States realizes what made their country great, and it was not socialism by the way, they will continue to flounder, and eventually go the way of western Europe.

    More doctors returning to Canada than leaving, first time in 30 years | Physicians for a National Health Program
    That was actually an older story about Canadian doctors returning to Canada. Here's a later one about American doctors moving to Canada. The last line in the story pretty much sums it up.

    Doctor drain turns to gain: Physicians move north

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