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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you are in favor of bailouts?


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    This is not about me, i simply asked you a question. Would you rather have double the unemployment and half the government spending during this recession, or this level of unemployment and current levels of government spending?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Your desire to reference aggregate job growth (private sector growth + public sector growth) failed to accout for public sector growth being negative. Negative + Positive = subtraction!
    Huh? You lost me here.

    If Obama said that 1.1 million private sector jobs have been created this year.
    The BLS website says that over all (private + public) 874,000 jobs have been created this year
    I said that the public sector has lost over 200,000 jobs this year.

    So, I don't follow you.

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    My apologies, i misread the last paragraph.

    None the less, why do you view Obama touting private sector job growth as something negative?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    The job market is in the pooper. Job creation in the US during the bush years was mostly minimum wage BS. Now this. /meh
    Yes the job market is in the pooper as you say, much of it is to the deep recession that happened when Bush was president. And even before the economy tanked, Bush has the worst job creation on record, creating just 375,000 per year while his predecessor Bill Clinton created 2,900,000 per year.

    I give you the Wall Street Journal, not exactly a liberal publication:

    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ


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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    My apologies, i misread the last paragraph.

    None the less, why do you view Obama touting private sector job growth as something negative?
    Because he blames Obama for his wife's employment status. As if the President is directly responsible for the job market in whatever city in South Carolina he's living in. Its not the industry, its not the economy, its not consumer demand, its not Congress, its not the Fed, its not a million other things which have huge effects on the employabilty of a person, its the President himself!

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    My apologies, i misread the last paragraph.

    None the less, why do you view Obama touting private sector job growth as something negative?
    Because he's ****in' lieing! There hasn't been a 1.1 million positive job growth added to the private sector this year.
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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah, the hailing of job growth....To be sure we hear this from any administration that enters office and is asked about it, but the numbers don't lie, do they?



    That works out to an average of just over 3,000 jobs per state last month. But, what kind of jobs were they? An example:

    My wife who is a 20 year graphic designer for print news papers lost her job due to down sizing two years ago, and in hopes of lowering our cost of living, as well as get better opportunity to find work, we moved from the North East to SC. Guess what? No jobs for her. She worked a warehouse type job for a year, and now works for a check cashing place temporarily until she can complete training to change careers. This has resulted in her making less than half of what she used to make. So, is she employed? yes. Is it an acceptable job, rate of pay, etc.? hell no!

    3,000 jobs is NOTHING per state that has hundreds of thousands out of work! Plus, it is NOTHING compared to new unemployment claims that come in every month either. In net, I'd be willing to bet it is a net loss still.

    News busters has this:



    So according to Government surveys Obama has lost some 3 Million jobs since taking office, so how is he able to say that he has created 3 Million jobs? At best it would be a wash. I think it is far greater loss than gain.

    Thoughts?
    The news story you quote and the article you posted that "busts" it are talking about two different things. Namely the CBS article is talking about the job creation since January of 2010, the other article is talking about job creation since Obama took office.

    Also the Newsbusters article is talking about something other guy other than Obama said, namely some guy named "Bill Press."

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Because he blames Obama for his wife's employment status. As if the President is directly responsible for the job market in whatever city in South Carolina he's living in. Its not the industry, its not the economy, its not consumer demand, its not Congress, its not the Fed, its not a million other things which have huge effects on the employabilty of a person, its the President himself!
    First off, I'm not married... Second, I don't live SC. I could be your neighbor.

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    First off, I'm not married... Second, I don't live SC. I could be your neighbor.
    O my mistake I thought he was quoting J-Mac. Thats who I meant that towards.

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    Re: Obama Heralds 1.1M Private Sector Jobs Created Since Jan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Because he blames Obama for his wife's employment status. As if the President is directly responsible for the job market in whatever city in South Carolina he's living in. Its not the industry, its not the economy, its not consumer demand, its not Congress, its not the Fed, its not a million other things which have huge effects on the employabilty of a person, its the President himself!
    The next thing you're going to say, is that Obama isn't responsible for all those oilfield hands that have been laid off since the moratorium.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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