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    Re: Julian Robertson Gonna Put You on a Diet, Fatty

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We could always allow price discrimination.
    Better than some federal agency devoted to fighting obesity.
    How about we start with a 10% pigouvian tax on sugar, fast food, and processed food?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Julian Robertson Gonna Put You on a Diet, Fatty

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    How about we start with a 10% pigouvian tax on sugar, fast food, and processed food?
    No because not everyone who uses that stuff is overweight.

    I use sugar for my coffee regularly, it isn't fair for me to subsidize fat people like that.
    It's more fair to go directly to the source, Medical insurance.

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    Re: Julian Robertson Gonna Put You on a Diet, Fatty

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No because not everyone who uses that stuff is overweight.
    Of course not. But i am willing to assume that your consumption of sugar products is not at a level which would force you into substitution.

    I use sugar for my coffee regularly, it isn't fair for me to subsidize fat people like that.
    It's more fair to go directly to the source, Medical insurance.
    You wouldn't be subsidizing fat people, just paying 10% extra for a good who's consumption is known to lead to cavities and diabetes. Smokers already tend to pay more for health care and life insurance, so i really have no objection to this. But.... More than 60% of adults are overweight or obese; so it might be hard to get something like that to fly without some sort of legislation.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Julian Robertson Gonna Put You on a Diet, Fatty

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Of course not. But i am willing to assume that your consumption of sugar products is not at a level which would force you into substitution.
    I just don't see the point when a more precise level of discouragement could be leveled on the individual who is actually over weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You wouldn't be subsidizing fat people, just paying 10% extra for a good who's consumption is known to lead to cavities and diabetes. Smokers already tend to pay more for health care and life insurance, so i really have no objection to this. But.... More than 60% of adults are overweight or obese; so it might be hard to get something like that to fly without some sort of legislation.
    I'd think that be true with any form of increased taxation.
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    Re: Julian Robertson Gonna Put You on a Diet, Fatty

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I just don't see the point when a more precise level of discouragement could be leveled on the individual who is actually over weight.
    Half of all health care expenditures are paid for via federal, state, and/or local governments. A bit of a dated source, but none the less:
    Children covered by Medicaid are nearly six times more likely to be treated for severe obesity than children with private insurance, a research firm said.

    The company's data, from government and employer records, showed that 1,115 of every 100,000 children covered by Medicaid were treated for obesity. In contrast, 195 of every 100,000 privately insured children were treated for that diagnosis.

    "Medicaid children have, on average, a bigger disease burden," said Bill Marder, general manager for Thomson Medstat, the research firm.

    Some experts said the finding wasn't surprising.

    Medicaid children tend to be less healthy in general, so they are more likely to need medical treatment, said Ken Thorpe, a professor of health policy at Atlanta's Emory University.
    I'd think that be true with any form of increased taxation.
    Yep.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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