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    Re: Muslim Activist Group Suing Oklahoma for banning Sharia/Islamic LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I oppose this outright.

    The law of the land, is the law of the land. Not some law from elsewhere, based on some book written by some dude in the desert who may/may not have existed 1000's of years ago. That goes for you too Christains.

    Keep religion out of the law and government, and you can pray to whatever invisible man you want.

    These "Activists" can stick it.
    I'm not opposed to them suing. They are free to do so. However, in this country our laws are secular and rightful laws are built to protect the rights and liberties of the individual. That's that. Sharia law is not something which should be recognized in our actual court system. The laws of man, not the laws of gods.
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    Re: Muslim Activist Group Suing Oklahoma for banning Sharia/Islamic LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The perception is, not so much Liberals defend sharia law, but more attack Christianity. For example, Christmas is coming --- and the obligatory "manger scene" being projected, as well as anything even hinting at Christimas as being a religious holiday. That sort of yearly ranting and raving in the courts about schools, etc... don't seem as prevelent when it comes to Muslims. There maybe reasons for that but I can tell you, Christians view these yearly attacks on them as segregated - and do not see the same attention applied to Muslims. Therefore the impression left - especially when viewing these yearly occurrances through a political lens, is that Liberals will defend the hell out of Muslims doing anything --- they'll also fight to take down anything that has to do with Christianity.

    I'm not saying I agree with this, I'm simply stating the perception and impression as I see it happening around me.
    I'm not a liberal, but since people keep accusing me of being one, I figure I could respond to this.

    I bring up Christianity when people start beating the drums about the evils of Islam because I think any and all religions are susceptible to the same violently radical fanaticism, and I get sick and tired of people going on and on about America's Christian roots as if those roots are somehow immune to that kind of infection.

    I'm not a "War on Christmas" type of guy. I'm not really a "War on" anything type of guy. If you leave me alone, and don't try to play at representing your invisible-man beliefs as somehow being better than someone else's, or being better than my lack of invisible-man beliefs, we're good.

    Bless me, wish me Merry Christmas, offer to pray for me, and I'll give you the same right back. The fact that I don't believe what you believe doesn't keep me from appreciating the sentiment.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Muslim Activist Group Suing Oklahoma for banning Sharia/Islamic LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not opposed to them suing. They are free to do so. However, in this country our laws are secular and rightful laws are built to protect the rights and liberties of the individual. That's that. Sharia law is not something which should be recognized in our actual court system. The laws of man, not the laws of gods.
    Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's a stupid ballot measure because
    A) It singles out Islam instead of applying to all religious law, and
    B) It's utterly redundant.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Muslim Activist Group Suing Oklahoma for banning Sharia/Islamic LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The perception is, not so much Liberals defend sharia law, but more attack Christianity. For example, Christmas is coming --- and the obligatory "manger scene" being projected, as well as anything even hinting at Christimas as being a religious holiday. That sort of yearly ranting and raving in the courts about schools, etc... don't seem as prevelent when it comes to Muslims. There maybe reasons for that but I can tell you, Christians view these yearly attacks on them as segregated - and do not see the same attention applied to Muslims. Therefore the impression left - especially when viewing these yearly occurrances through a political lens, is that Liberals will defend the hell out of Muslims doing anything --- they'll also fight to take down anything that has to do with Christianity.

    I'm not saying I agree with this, I'm simply stating the perception and impression as I see it happening around me.
    I never once saw Islamic holiday paraphenilia in school when I was younger. No school I'm aware of has tried to integrate Islamic religious teachings into a science class. I've never seen Islamic writings outside a courtroom. I've never seen a business closing for an Islamic holiday. What "attention" should I be paying to Islam?

    The reason Christianity is "attacked" so regularly is because Christianity is what is thrust upon us all the time. Nobody is attacking Christianity, we're trying to stop it from being forced upon us. Saying "happy holidays" is not an attack on Christianity. A "holiday sale" instead of a "Christmas sale" does not exclude Christians. The idea that Christians are some oppressed group in this country is ludicrous.

    edit: The short, smartass answer is that White Christian Males seem to think that it's a zero-sum game, that being more inclusive of others must mean being less inclusive of Christianity.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Muslim Activist Group Suing Oklahoma for banning Sharia/Islamic LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As I thought.

    Why do liberals defend the barbaric law of Sharia?
    We don't. I can't even manage to live under US laws. How am I ever going to give a rat's ass about Sharia law?
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    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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