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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Hmmm. Now that Ralph Nader has taken up the cause, I may have to reconsider my position.

    Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm kind of put out. I've flown almost 60k miles this year and NO ONE has fondled me. Not even once.
    These are new regulations. Unless you've flown 60k miles in the past two weeks, what you've experienced is irrelevant w/r to the OP.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    We'll be driving instead of flying until this stops. A close family member has had some sensitive cancer surgery and it's just too much for them to go through that screening. It's not worth it. And now that stories are coming out that they're frisking between the legs, too? Um, I don't think so. I don't want my kids growing up to think that is okay in a free country. We protest that. We don't think it keeps us safer since terrorists tend to think ahead and change tactics anyway.

    We should do what Israel does and question people and quit terrorizing innocent travellers like this. Even if you yourself don't mind the procedures or haven't had a bad experience please have some compassion for those who do.

    Airport Security Solution: Should the TSA Profile Travelers to Prevent Terrorist Attacks? - ABC News
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    Isaac Yeffet, the former head of security for the Israeli airline El Al, says the only way to secure the skies is to employ highly-educated, well-trained agents to question passengers. Forget bomb-sniffing "puffers" or scanners that can see through passengers' clothes. Yeffet said that he has seen many terrorists outsmart airport security over the years, and as technology improves, so do the terrorists' methods.

    "We are dealing with a sophisticated enemy who knows how to beat our technology," said Yeffet, who now runs his own firm, Yeffet Security Consultants.
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    When hiring people to do profiling, Yeffet said, they must be qualified staff, "very well educated people" with at least a college education and fluent in English and at least one other language.

    "We test them always. Anybody who fails is fired. We have no mercy because we are dealing with lives," Yeffet said. "The problem with the TSA is that they don't have experts, they don't have qualified people."

    The Transportation Security Administration did not respond to requests for comment.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Here's what happened to one guy who refused to have his crotch examined. Granted, he didn't help himself by telling the TSA agent "if you touch my junk I'll have you arrested."



    IMO the agents acted in a professional manner. The problem is the policy they're tasked with enforcing. This guy eventually left and actually had his non-refundable ticket refunded by American Airlines (good for them). TSA told him as he was leaving though, that he may be sued in civil court for $10,000 for leaving the area.

    Which brings up the question... whether you're for or against these enchanced pat downs, what good are they if when push comes to shove the passenger can simply refuse and leave??

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    LOL - funny, but people should remember to be angry at the policy, not at the TSA agents who have no choice in following it. At least the policy isn't SO boneheaded that guys like that are selecting women "at random" for "enhanced pat downs". Every complaint I've read thus far has involved a same-sex agent.

    Still... I wonder if they'd be getting a lot less resistance - at least from men - if the TSA agents looked more like this? It would bring a whole new meaning to "suspicious package" and I don't think their wives and girlfriends would be too happy.


    Notice the guy pretending to "fix" his camera.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Still... I wonder if they'd be getting a lot less resistance - at least from men - if the TSA agents looked more like this?

    Notice the guy pretending to "fix" his camera.
    Just use your imagination, I can't seem to link to pics of "women in uniform" without the image being later replaced by an ad.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    LOL - funny, but people should remember to be angry at the policy, not at the TSA agents who have no choice in following it.
    Agreed that bad policy is the core of the problem, but some of the agents can be real jerks too.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    We should do what Israel does and question people and quit terrorizing innocent travellers like this. Even if you yourself don't mind the procedures or haven't had a bad experience please have some compassion for those who do.
    The Israelis at times also strip search at airports and border crossings, they don't just question. I know this through experience.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by peas_and_corn View Post
    The Israelis at times also strip search at airports and border crossings, they don't just question. I know this through experience.
    Strip search? STRIP SEARCH?

    Brb crossing out Israel from list of countries to visit

    OT. I'm nothing but annoyed at this use of scanners. I'm especially annoyed at UK's policies which is basically take those scans. Meh, looks like I am in for no holidays outside of EU for a long time :S
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