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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I guess there really are some travelers who don't mind...

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    May I conclude that you are both calling the woman in the OP a liar?
    Your posts are inflammatory, hyperbolic, and riddled with errors. Is it too much to ask that you defend your opinions with credible sources? Clearly, it is.

    Carry on. Your failure to prove your ridiculous claims are duly noted.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Important question: Is Heathrow an American airport? Read your damn article.

    Here's the answer: No. Heathrow is not an American airport, and it is not screened by TSA agents. These were BRITISH SECURITY OFFICERS.

    Could you get your airports straight, please? Stop bagging on TSA for something a brit did.
    Would you consider reading the rest of the article? I've been through Heathrow and I'm well aware of where it is located.

    Your faith in the integrity of TSA personnel is touching, but I really don't understand why you are so eager to dismiss any claims of wrongdoing on their part. If you have any points or arguments to make, I'll be glad to read them; otherwise, have a nice day.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    I have, and compared to what is being reported about the TSA's patdown, it was NOTHING like that.

    Checkmate.
    I call bull****. Clearly, you didn't get the special search with the latex glove. But I can help you with that, if you'd like. I just need your name and location.

    Really? And what proof do you have for that? The TSA's publically released images, being nothing near full size/resolution and very clearly altered for public consumption? When the TSA shows FULL resolution, FULL size, UNALTERED images that show something contrary to what TSOs have reported so faer, then I'll believe you. So far, the TSA has systematically REFUSED to give us the real view of what is being shown.
    I have my ways. It ain't all that, bro. But hey, get your panties in a wad. For all we know, it's pleasurable to give yourself a wedgie.

    And how in bloody hell is a non-law-enforcement seeing an ex-ray, being neither cop nor medical professional NOT invasive, especially when a COP can't legally do that barring extremely extremely controlled, extremely extremely limited circumstances for which he or she was PROPERLY trained?
    Well, I don't have any gross bodily abnormalities, and I do have spectacular tits. I guess I'm not sensitive about it.

    Your blatant dismissal of the serious implications the body imaging technology, especially when in the hands of the competence questionable TSA, makes it hard to believe you want an honest debate when it comes to the very real privacy issues associated with it.
    What serious implications are these? Someone might see my boobies? ZOMG!

    Strawmen and ad hoc, is this really the best argument in defense of the TSA and the body imaging technology?
    Another strawman. I guess when you're clutching at straws and hysteria, that's really all you've got to grab.


    This I agree on - profiling is not a very good alternative because of the unknowns in regards of what to look for - if you create a stereotype to base whom you profile on you'll end up missing the crafty - as in those who see the flaw and pass through the workaround with ease - and pissing off a lot of people in the process.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Your faith in the integrity of TSA personnel is touching, but I really don't understand why you are so eager to dismiss any claims of wrongdoing on their part. If you have any points or arguments to make, I'll be glad to read them; otherwise, have a nice day.
    You've provided isolated complaints from disreputable sources. Yeah. I promise to treat that with all the seriousness that it deserves.

    When you are able to make a rational argument, I'll give you more credibility.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Drudge does a pretty good job of keeping up with this issue.

    From USA Today, Airport screeners get more aggressive with pat-downs.

    From WLS-TV in Chicago, Pilots' unions oppose full-body scans, searches.

    From ABC15 in Phoenix, Flight attendants union upset over new pat-down procedures.

    And of course TSA denies any impropriety: TSA: No Fondling, Groping Or Squeezing Is Taking Place At Airports.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I don't think I'm gonna fly any more. This is really outrageous.

    TSA Fondles Women and Children Refusing Airport Naked Body Scanners
    I believe you are missing the point and we are missing a tremendous opportunity.

    With a great promotional campaign, this is a great way to stop possible terroristas from boarding flights.

    We can call it... Grope-a-dope. Or... Aggressive baggage handling.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Drudge does a pretty good job of keeping up with this issue.

    From USA Today, Airport screeners get more aggressive with pat-downs.:
    From your first article:

    "I stood there thinking that this is somewhat humiliating, even though I didn't know all the people around me," says Ashor, an architect from San Diego. "As a woman, it is somewhat unnerving to have someone touching you in these areas in full public view."

    The TSA has private screening areas, but Ashor says she doesn't opt to use them to save time.

    See, I worked in a police agency. Some detectives I worked with ended up bringing in a gang suspect and placing him in an interview. He wasn't searched thoroughly enough and eventually removed a gun that he'd taped under his testicals and almost shot one of my co-workers.

    It's hard to do an accurate body search. If people are carrying metal through metal detectors, what do you recommend that we do to keep weapons and/or other objects off of planes? I'm really interested to hear, Diogenes, since this seems to be a subject that you spend a considerable degree of time thinking about.

    Here's what I recommend: Flying isn't a right. If people don't want to submit to the security screening, don't fly. Drive your car or take a train or some other alternate method of transportation.

    I have to fly for my job. I don't care if other passengers don't want to be searched. Coming home safe to my kids is my first priority. Everyone on the flight needs to be security screened.

    You don't want to be searched? Don't fly.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    From your first article:




    See, I worked in a police agency. Some detectives I worked with ended up bringing in a gang suspect and placing him in an interview. He wasn't searched thoroughly enough and eventually removed a gun that he'd taped under his testicals and almost shot one of my co-workers.
    Metal detectors. Not a cutting edge bit of technology at all airports takes care of that.
    You know... even a wand would do the trick and you don't have to touch nutt'in.

    Of course plastic guns could wreak havoc.

    I think we are going to see perverts start looking to the TSA instead of the church to get some of their jollies. Government sanctioned fondling with all the perks of government to boot!

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    And now even the ACLU is taking notice and has web site to report abuse:
    Report Abuse During Passenger Screening in U. S. Airports

    CNET reports (Backlash grows over TSA's 'naked strip searches') that TSA has been upgraded from an acronym for "Thousands Standing Around" to "Thousands Squeezing Asses"

    Even Reuters has taken notice: Pilots and passengers rail at new airport patdowns

    These "enhanced screening procedures" were only started at the end of October; I wonder how long the public will tolerate them.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    "Rail" is an interesting word used in the Reuters report.

    rail 3 (rl)
    intr.v. railed, rail·ing, rails
    To express objections or criticisms in bitter, harsh, or abusive language
    Don't work out, work in.

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