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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I've been search 3 or 4 times this year, for a variety of reasons. I've gone through security checkpoints about 50 times or more, in almost every region of the U.S. Zero problems.

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    Doesn't mean that things don't happen though - not that I'm intentionally implying that you take the "It never happened to me,. thus it doesn't happen" attitude, but the TSA's infamous incompetence, and power tripping isn't secret. Its just the apathy both from the public, and media outlets.
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    I don't think I'm gonna fly any more. This is really outrageous.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Alex Jones makes Rush Limbaugh believable

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Doesn't mean that things don't happen though - not that I'm intentionally implying that you take the "It never happened to me,. thus it doesn't happen" attitude, but the TSA's infamous incompetence, and power tripping isn't secret. Its just the apathy both from the public, and media outlets.
    I hear a lot of stories about TSA's famous incompetence, and yet, I've interacted with hundreds of TSA employees since 2001. None of them have been incompetent or rude.

    Maybe you're allowing your opinions on the subject to be set by a small minority of people and a few axe grinders...

    I fly from a small city and I know the local TSA employees by first name at this point. I like them. They're decent people doing a job, and they frequently deal with rudeness and stupidity.

    It kind of reminds me of a trip I took to LA. My daughter, her friend and I stayed at The Standard downtown, which is kind a hipster hotel. The reviews of this hotel were very mixed. According to the reviews, the staff at the hotel were difficult to deal with, had bad attitudes, and were nasty and surly.

    When we got to the hotel, and were waiting to check in, I watched an extremely rude and drunken young man abuse the staff at the front desk. Seriously, it was unbelievable the crap that these people put up with. On the other hand, we stayed there for five nights, and we had a wonderful experience at that hotel, and we loved every single staff member we encountered there, from the valets to the restaurant servers to the front desk staff.

    I see a lot of rudeness at the TSA stations. But 99% of the time, it is the passengers doing it to the TSA staff, and not vice versa. People who don't fly a lot don't bother to research the rules, don't pay attention, don't follow instructions, and then get pissed at the TSA personnel when they can't bring their liter of water on the plane.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    I am aware that smaller airports usually have the politer TSA agents - most of my traveling - especially after 9-11 - has been out of major airports [god I wish the small airport near me had more destinations]. The major airports, however, have much more incidents of rudeness, etc. The people on the FlyerTalk forums can attest to this. For all the airports I've been through, in the U.S [LGA, LAX, DFW, ORD, MCO, MIA, TPA, SNA, STL, JFK, DFW, HOG, HNL, BWI, SAN, HPN] only HPN has had extrordinarily friendly TSA agents.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm kind of put out. I've flown almost 60k miles this year and NO ONE has fondled me. Not even once. And you would think that since airfares to some of the places I've had to go have been $800+, I should have been entitled to a little fondling before Delta bent me over and financially raped me.
    What are you talking about? Don't you know every TSA employee goes through a "How to grope, fondle, and molest the passengers" course?



    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Doesn't mean that things don't happen though - not that I'm intentionally implying that you take the "It never happened to me,. thus it doesn't happen" attitude, but the TSA's infamous incompetence, and power tripping isn't secret. Its just the apathy both from the public, and media outlets.
    No, what isn't secret is the media and publics attempt to glom onto any random negative acts due to a dislike for the agency and what they do and thus negative things about them give good ratings/buys.

    There are over 350 airports in the United States. Even just thinking of the 26 Cat X ones, the largest, would give a good indication though. You're looking at thousands upon thousands of TSA employees, and I say that because not only do you have many working but continual turnout at the larger airports due to the typically poor pay, hours, and working conditions in some of the places. Yet you hear of a handful of CREDIBLE stories that come out a year and it gets used to judge what must be somehow "rampant" amongst all of TSA.

    Now I won't doubt one bit you'll find rude TSA people, or unfriendly ones, at the big airports. I dare say working with people where the large amount of them hate your very existance and their attitude tells you that wouldn't wear on many of you greatly either. But there's a difference between unfriendly and criminal.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    I am aware that smaller airports usually have the politer TSA agents - most of my traveling - especially after 9-11 - has been out of major airports [god I wish the small airport near me had more destinations]. The major airports, however, have much more incidents of rudeness, etc. The people on the FlyerTalk forums can attest to this. For all the airports I've been through, in the U.S [LGA, LAX, DFW, ORD, MCO, MIA, TPA, SNA, STL, JFK, DFW, HOG, HNL, BWI, SAN, HPN] only HPN has had extrordinarily friendly TSA agents.
    A cyclical thing sadly. Smaller airports tend to be less stressful for passengers checking in, shorter lines, etc. This puts passengers in a better mood. Passengers in a good mood are easy to work with thus putting employees in a good mood. Employees in a good mood reenforce passengers good attitudes. And it goes back and forth.

    Meanwhile, waiting 45 minutes in a check in line, to then have to wait in the TSA line, to have to deal with these "idiots" whose job a "monkey" could do while you have to ridiculously take off your shoes and god damn you just wanted to bring a coke with you, generally puts a lot of people in a ****ty and rude mood. ****ty and rude moods get reflected in your actions and words which rub off on those employees dealing with you. That messes up their mood which then hits the next passenger, and so on.

    Now yes, its their "job", but their job is actually first and foremost the security part of it...the "being friendly" is secondary. And, for many the jobs not worth taking crap from people that somehow thing Jimmy waving the metal detecting wand somehow personally decided you can't bring your lighter with you on board.

    This isn't an attempt to excuse rudeness, there's no "excuse" for it, but more to explain why you're seeing it and why likely smaller airports don't experience it.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    I am aware that smaller airports usually have the politer TSA agents - most of my traveling - especially after 9-11 - has been out of major airports [god I wish the small airport near me had more destinations]. The major airports, however, have much more incidents of rudeness, etc. The people on the FlyerTalk forums can attest to this. For all the airports I've been through, in the U.S [LGA, LAX, DFW, ORD, MCO, MIA, TPA, SNA, STL, JFK, DFW, HOG, HNL, BWI, SAN, HPN] only HPN has had extrordinarily friendly TSA agents.
    I'm sure this wouldn't be because they numerically handle a hundred times more people, right? Thus, dealing with a hundred times more fliers who don't know how to pack, don't follow rules, and don't prepare in advance for their flight.

    I see you attempting to dismiss my post, but for every flight I take OUT OF my small city, I have multiple connections and I take a return flight home out of a large city...LAX, DFW, MIA, DET, DCA, RDU, MIL, SAN...the list goes on, this year alone.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 11-08-10 at 10:17 AM.

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