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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Nope. I once sat on a jury for a misdemeanor assault case, and we had to convict even though I felt the defendant was completely justified in what he did. The jury instructions were very specific.
    sorry, but I think my study of the UCMJ and civil law trumps your "I sat on a jury once"
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Well as a police officer I never had to literally fondle anyone to search them. So there is no excuse.
    TSA isn't "fondling" anyone geez
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not suggesting there is an excuse. Just saying...thems the rules and when you are playing on TSA's field, in their ballpark, with their rules...well...you have two choices...play the game or take take your ball(s) and go home.

    Im not trying to be flippant about any of this but there is a certain undeniable reality...people ARE looking for ways to do others harm. They wear explosive panties. They have plastiques inserted rectally and detonated by cell phone. They are putting explosive compounds in their gatorade and baby bottles. And Im sorry, but if walking through a scanner prevents a 767 from being detonated over a crowded city...well...count me in for the scanning. Because you know damn good and well if they DIDNT do everything possible people would be screaming bloody murder when someone succeeds. Of all the things I dont like about Obama...I WANT him to continue taking the preemptive fight to those that would do the country harm.

    Now...if we can just convince them to take border security this seriously.
    Giving up our privacy and rights to not be hassled and freely move around the country as we see fit is not an option. They need to come up with a better idea. F**k the government. They are supposed to serve us not harass.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    TSA isn't "fondling" anyone geez
    Then why has this been reported? I mean a few stories have already been passed around. It also seems Muslims females are so far getting a pass???
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Were you questioned first?
    I was tagged by the person checking my passport (put a green sticker on my passport to flag me) because I was acting suspiciously. Apparently looking around the room a lot while standing in line (through boredom mostly) is suspicious. The search was part of the questioning.

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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What are you talking about? Don't you know every TSA employee goes through a "How to grope, fondle, and molest the passengers" course?





    No, what isn't secret is the media and publics attempt to glom onto any random negative acts due to a dislike for the agency and what they do and thus negative things about them give good ratings/buys.

    There are over 350 airports in the United States. Even just thinking of the 26 Cat X ones, the largest, would give a good indication though. You're looking at thousands upon thousands of TSA employees, and I say that because not only do you have many working but continual turnout at the larger airports due to the typically poor pay, hours, and working conditions in some of the places. Yet you hear of a handful of CREDIBLE stories that come out a year and it gets used to judge what must be somehow "rampant" amongst all of TSA.

    Now I won't doubt one bit you'll find rude TSA people, or unfriendly ones, at the big airports. I dare say working with people where the large amount of them hate your very existance and their attitude tells you that wouldn't wear on many of you greatly either. But there's a difference between unfriendly and criminal.
    You ever seen the fed govt course on sexual harassment. "unwelcome" touching?
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, but I think my study of the UCMJ and civil law trumps your "I sat on a jury once"
    Have you ever tried to sell that "intent is relevant" line to a civil court?

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    You ever seen the fed govt course on sexual harassment. "unwelcome" touching?
    I have, and "intent" was utterly irrelevant.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    lol.....what do you fly?
    I fly corporate aircraft out of Fort Worth Texas. It just so happens that my absence is due to a broken aircraft that turned a one day trip into a five day odyssey.

    I fly King Airs, Gulfstreams and Citations.
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    Re: Sexual assault in airports

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I fly corporate aircraft out of Fort Worth Texas. It just so happens that my absence is due to a broken aircraft that turned a one day trip into a five day odyssey.

    I fly King Airs, Gulfstreams and Citations.
    My 'rents own a kitchen/bathroom business, one of their clients works for netJets - IIRC with recieving/inventory of parts for aircraft maintainence. Being an aviation freak like I am, I got to spend much of the night there and go inside such aircraft [ sit in the seats, cockpit, etc - supervised of course ], they are nice.

    [Boy was it fun, walking around aircraft, being able to see the flight tracking software without the time delay that sites like flightAware have, and walking out onto the tarmac to where the overflow parking for commercial aircraft was and getting pictures of American Eagle ERJ-145s and jetBlue E190s up close.... ]
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