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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

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    LOL, I love the way liberals point to percentages as an example of actual results and never point to actual dollar results. "Your" President added 3 trillion dollars to the debt in two years compared to Reagan's 1.7 trillion in 8 years. Bush added 5 trillion in 8 years and that will be blown away in 4. Reagan added 18 million new jobs and Bush 6.5 million total in 8 years, obama has lost four million in two. Got to love liberal math.
    Of course, never mind that the recession started before he got there, but where do you get 6.5 million under Bush and 18 under Reagan?

    According to WSJ it was just over 3 million - and that was an expansion of 2.3% vs. population growth of 7.7%. And Reagan was 16 million.

    But, let's look at this chart on job losses and growth:



    Notice how quickly it dives downward under Bush's last year and begins to curve upward and actually moves into the positive by 2010 under Obama. Or do you propose that - unlike under Reagan and Bush - Obama should NOT have experienced continued job losses post-recession? The question I'm asking is about standards. Why do you hold him to a different one that Reagan and Bush were held to?

    Now...none of this changes the fact that the right-wing has been lying about the India trip, though...

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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Of course, never mind that the recession started before he got there, but where do you get 6.5 million under Bush and 18 under Reagan?

    According to WSJ it was just over 3 million - and that was an expansion of 2.3% vs. population growth of 7.7%. And Reagan was 16 million.

    But, let's look at this chart on job losses and growth:



    Notice how quickly it dives downward under Bush's last year and begins to curve upward and actually moves into the positive by 2010 under Obama. Or do you propose that - unlike under Reagan and Bush - Obama should NOT have experienced continued job losses post-recession? The question I'm asking is about standards. Why do you hold him to a different one that Reagan and Bush were held to?

    Now...none of this changes the fact that the right-wing has been lying about the India trip, though...
    Now isn't that wonderful, my bet is that the 4 million people who lost their jobs since Obama took office are heartened by this chart. Also noticed you had no problem ignoring the job creation from 2001 through 2007 so let me help you.

    From the Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Employment

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
    2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
    2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
    2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
    2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061


    Unemployment numbers, please note that the recession ended in June 2009 and then check out the unemployment in 2010 on a month to month basis. Now I wonder which chart carried the day on November 2 during the elections when 682 State legislative offices changed to Republicans and the GOP had historic gains in the Congress.

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2000 5708 5858 5733 5481 5758 5651 5747 5853 5625 5534 5639 5634
    2001 6023 6089 6141 6271 6226 6484 6583 7042 7142 7694 8003 8258
    2002 8182 8215 8304 8599 8399 8393 8390 8304 8251 8307 8520 8640
    2003 8520 8618 8588 8842 8957 9266 9011 8896 8921 8732 8576 8317
    2004 8370 8167 8491 8170 8212 8286 8136 7990 7927 8061 7932 7934
    2005 7784 7980 7737 7672 7651 7524 7406 7345 7553 7453 7566 7279
    2006 7059 7185 7075 7122 6977 6998 7154 7097 6853 6728 6883 6784
    2007 7085 6898 6725 6845 6765 6966 7113 7096 7200 7273 7284 7696
    2008 7628 7435 7793 7631 8397 8560 8895 9509 9569 10172 10617 11400
    2009 11919 12714 13310 13816 14518 14721 14534 14993 15159 15612 15340 15267
    2010 14837 14871 15005 15260 14973 14623 14599 14860 14767 14843

    Discouraged workers
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 0 0

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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Guess you forgot to send that to the electorate on November 2. Apparently they didn't find Bush or his policies on the ballot but did find Obama policies on the ballot. Guess 16 million unemployed, up 4 million after spending a trillion didn't impress the voters. They just don't seem to understand how wonderful Obama is

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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Guess you forgot to send that to the electorate on November 2. Apparently they didn't find Bush or his policies on the ballot but did find Obama policies on the ballot. Guess 16 million unemployed, up 4 million after spending a trillion didn't impress the voters. They just don't seem to understand how wonderful Obama is
    Obama wasn't on the ballot Nov 2, the electorate is frustrated over the economy that took a dive during the Bush administation.



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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    You better update your signature and your post dude:

    Obama on Jobs: Worst Track Record in History
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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Obama wasn't on the ballot Nov 2, the electorate is frustrated over the economy that took a dive during the Bush administation.

    Interesting, economists claim that TARP saved the economy, not anything that Obama did. Guess you better contact them and tell economists they are wrong. Even Warren Buffet claims that TARP saved the economy.

    Then there is a little problem for you, the recession ended in June 2009 so in order for the recession to end things had to be improving and this is before Obama could do any damage at all. All that damage occurred after the end of the recession. Not surprising that you didn't get the memo yet.

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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting, economists claim that TARP saved the economy, not anything that Obama did. Guess you better contact them and tell economists they are wrong. Even Warren Buffet claims that TARP saved the economy.

    Then there is a little problem for you, the recession ended in June 2009 so in order for the recession to end things had to be improving and this is before Obama could do any damage at all. All that damage occurred after the end of the recession. Not surprising that you didn't get the memo yet.
    This is like debating with a potato, you are wasting your time my friend.
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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    This is like debating with a potato, you are wasting your time my friend.
    I know, some people just cannot admit they were duped by the liberal ideology even when confronted with actual facts.

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    Re: Bachmann Outraged Over Made Up Cost Of Obama's India Trip (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then there is a little problem for you, the recession ended in June 2009 so in order for the recession to end things had to be improving and this is before Obama could do any damage at all. All that damage occurred after the end of the recession. Not surprising that you didn't get the memo yet.
    The term recession is a technical term that deals with the GDP and not employment. The fact that the recession ende means very little.


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