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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'd agree it was mishandled and mistakes were made - of that there's no doubt. As for false pretenses - soldiers go where their commander and chief sends them and sometimes that's in harms way. A soldiers job is not the same job as a politician or statesman. Their job is to do what they are ordered to do and the family of a solider is there to support the soldiers in their mission and to do everything they can to get them home again safe.

    Not that your question has ANY relevance whatsoever to my answer to you...


    Got news for ya pal... looking back on the 20th century, it wasn't Republicans who got us into 2 world wars, and 2 South East Asian wars now was it.

    Wilson - WWI
    Roosevelt WWII
    Truman - Korea
    Kennedy/Johnson - Vietnam / Bay of Pigs

    It was the non interventionalists Democrats. Amazing!

    G.H. went into Iraq with the rest of the world and then setup the no-fly zone.
    Clinton kept the no-fly zone for 8 additional years
    G.W. Invaded Afghanistan (which is still supported by Democrats and Republicans) and also invaded Iraq - the one you don't like.

    So if we have history to use as a barometer - we should be very scared of Democrats using your logic. Thank God no one other than you uses your logic.
    So if I am currently worried about international terrorist and state sponsored terrorism, according to your logic, I should vote for a Democrat in the next presidential election since history shows they are the ones most likely to wage war and keep us safe?
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, you can keep the change.

    Math equation for soldiers: M+16=0 terrorist

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I must have read something else. But you are correct. That said though, be happy he supported the proper process rather than an executive order, you must admit he put it on the hardest road to ratification.
    It was put through the hardest process, and I'm glad it was overturned.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I support it as well as do about 80% of the public. Those that want gay marriage want it legislated by the courts and marriage is no where in the Constitution, not even mentioned.
    The Constitutional argument for SSM is an equal protection argument, not that marriage is a Constitutional right.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I must have read something else. But you are correct.
    I'm loving this thread. Conservative admitted there was no WMDs and that several Bush policies didn't work. Rev Hell Man is admitting he can get facts wrong too sometimes. Ockahm admits Bush was way off trying to put a federal ban on gay marriage. Who said liberals and conservatives can't agree on things?
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, you can keep the change.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The Constitutional argument for SSM is an equal protection argument, not that marriage is a Constitutional right.
    You have the same protection as I have and can marry just like I did. How is the right to marry equal protection for anyone?

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have the same protection as I have and can marry just like I did. How is the right to marry equal protection for anyone?
    This isn't about sexual orientation, but gender. Why should a women not be allowed to enter the contract of marriage with another women, and the state must show a state interest in denying them that contract based on their gender.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have the same protection as I have and can marry just like I did. How is the right to marry equal protection for anyone?
    You were able to marry the person you wanted to marry, while Young Star was not. Under your logic, if neither whites can marry blacks, nor blacks can marry whites, then it doesn't violate equal protection. Do you agree that blacks and whites shouldn't be able to marry?
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, you can keep the change.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This isn't about sexual orientation, but gender. Why should a women not be allowed to enter the contract of marriage with another women, and the state must show a state interest in denying them that contract based on their gender.
    Because it is the law, change the law as we are a nation of laws where the majority rules. you can enter into a civil union and thus a contract but why is it so important for you to call it a marriage? You have the same equal protection as I have for and from the laws of the land.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because it is the law, change the law as we are a nation of laws where the majority rules. you can enter into a civil union and thus a contract but why is it so important for you to call it a marriage? You have the same equal protection as I have for and from the laws of the land.
    If the name is not important, then why not eliminate the word "marriage" from these "contracts" and call them all civil unions?
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, you can keep the change.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    You were able to marry the person you wanted to marry, while Young Star was not. Under your logic, if neither whites can marry blacks, nor blacks can marry whites, then it doesn't violate equal protection. Do you agree that blacks and whites shouldn't be able to marry?
    Young star can marry any person of the opposite sex she/he wants or would have him/her. That is the law. you don't like the law, change it. Good luck with that. Marriage is the union between a man and a woman per the law.

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