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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    What would you say to a voter who comes from a military family, who's disgruntled about being led into a war that was based on false pretenses and then gravely mishandled? If he wants to avoid this in the future, should he continue to vote for Republican politicians who are endorsed by Bush and Cheney? Or would his vote be better placed with non-interventionist democrats?
    You seem to be a one issue voter and totally ignore the massive expansion of the govt. that Obama is doing. It really is a shame to be so blinded that you cannot see what damage is really being done.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The amendment would have limited marriage to one man, and one women, thus banning SSM, at a federal level.


    yes but don't you see? what he did was the right thing to do, the issue should have been solved at a federal amendment level. He was not pushing for support of its passage, iirc he didn't say one way or the other on the bill other than that it should go up for a vote. Now he I am sure is a man woman=marriage guy like Obama, but what he was doing was putting it up for the people to decide.

    I give him credit here.
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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    What would you say to a voter who comes from a military family, who's disgruntled about being led into a war that was based on false pretenses and then gravely mishandled?
    I'd agree it was mishandled and mistakes were made - of that there's no doubt. As for false pretenses - soldiers go where their commander and chief sends them and sometimes that's in harms way. A soldiers job is not the same job as a politician or statesman. Their job is to do what they are ordered to do and the family of a solider is there to support the soldiers in their mission and to do everything they can to get them home again safe.

    Not that your question has ANY relevance whatsoever to my answer to you...


    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    If he wants to avoid this in the future, should he continue to vote for Republican politicians who are endorsed by Bush and Cheney? Or would his vote be better placed with non-interventionist democrats?
    Got news for ya pal... looking back on the 20th century, it wasn't Republicans who got us into 2 world wars, and 2 South East Asian wars now was it.

    Wilson - WWI
    Roosevelt WWII
    Truman - Korea
    Kennedy/Johnson - Vietnam / Bay of Pigs

    It was the non interventionalists Democrats. Amazing!

    G.H. went into Iraq with the rest of the world and then setup the no-fly zone.
    Clinton kept the no-fly zone for 8 additional years
    G.W. Invaded Afghanistan (which is still supported by Democrats and Republicans) and also invaded Iraq - the one you don't like.

    So if we have history to use as a barometer - we should be very scared of Democrats using your logic. Thank God no one other than you uses your logic.
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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    In the initial stages of the war on terror, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), under George Tenet, was rising to prominence as the lead agency in the Afghanistan war. But when Tenet insisted in his personal meetings with President Bush that there was no connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq, Vice-President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld initiated a secret program to reexamine the evidence and marginalize the CIA and Tenet. A major part of this program was a Pentagon unit known as the Office of Special Plans (OSP), created by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and headed by Douglas Feith to supply senior Bush administration officials with raw intelligence pertaining to Iraq, unvetted by intelligence analysts, and circumventing traditional intelligence gathering operations by the CIA. The questionable intelligence acquired by the OSP was "stovepiped" to Cheney and presented to the public. Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I thought Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were Republicans?
    George Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton and told GW Bush that Saddam Hussein having WMD was a slam dunk. Looks like selective facts in your case.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    yes but don't you see? what he did was the right thing to do, the issue should have been solved at a federal amendment level. He was not pushing for support of its passage, iirc he didn't say one way or the other on the bill other than that it should go up for a vote. Now he I am sure is a man woman=marriage guy like Obama, but what he was doing was putting it up for the people to decide.

    I give him credit here.
    This isn't correct, he supported the amendment, Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This isn't correct, he supported the amendment, Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage


    I must have read something else. But you are correct. That said though, be happy he supported the proper process rather than an executive order, you must admit he put it on the hardest road to ratification.
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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This isn't correct, he supported the amendment, Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage
    I support it as well as do about 80% of the public. Those that want gay marriage want it legislated by the courts and marriage is no where in the Constitution, not even mentioned.

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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nice, but it doesn't change the fact this is a guy who OK'd the Fatwa against Salman Rushdie... and of all the artists they invited to a... Rally... to ... Restore ... Sanity... they chose someone who supported a religious and state assassination plan.

    And why was this man a threat? Writing a book.

    Perhaps we should invite those who want to kill cartoonists next time... or those that kill film makers.

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    Had never heard that about Cat Stevens. If true, I'm guessing/hoping that Stewart and crew weren't aware of it. But yeah, that is kind of a clumsy little detail to have about one of the feature singers at a "let's all try to get along" rally....


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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    George Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton and told GW Bush that Saddam Hussein having WMD was a slam dunk. Looks like selective facts in your case.
    I never thought you'd finally admit Alqaeda in Iraq and WMDs were false pretenses. See what a healthy debate can do? Congratulations!
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    Re: Rally to Restore Sanity attendance estimated at 215,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    I never thought you'd finally admit Alqaeda in Iraq and WMDs were false pretenses. See what a healthy debate can do? Congratulations!
    I wasn't the only one wrong about WMD but there were 22 reasons that were approved by the Democrat controlled Senate and WMD was only one of them. The world got it wrong but Saddam Hussein did have a WMD program and it was ready to be reconstituted. Saddam Hussein was a continuing and growing threat and Bush addressed it, like it or not.

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