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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    Try telling that to the Palestinians.
    Try telling anything to the Palestinians....



    However so many of your statements are overly-assumptive or just outright false, dogmatic, apply equally to western religions and are laced with genocidal implications.
    Yep, more hyperbole. And it's funny how my 'lies' aren't refuted, though I suppose that's not necessary when smear is so readily available.

    Though I do agree that trouble at home (crime, etc.) can be a more pressing concern. Yet the ethnic and religious trouble has been coming to find us of late, as even the riots in Europe show.

    And as far as the Muslim world is concerned, unless I'm not noticing something, I wouldn't mind the West leaving it to its own devices. Iraq and Afghanistan, already kicked-in and its terrorist regimes deposed, can be abandoned as they're not worth a single further drop of Allied blood. And if they play up again, there's no reason why they can't be zapped by remote control. (It's either that or help the peaceful Muslims to flourish by having a proper go at fighting the terrorists, with a full-blown army group to do the pest control. But that would never be allowed, would it?!)

    If we leave them alone they can leave us alone. And if we send back Western-based jihadists and extremists to Dar Al Islam in the process, there should be a lot more peace. (Or more justification to spotlight them if they fail to live up to their side of the bargain.)



    ....apply equally to western religions....
    There's your leftist moral equivilence again. Have the countless Islamic atrocities since September 11 taught you nothing?!


    And I've not seen a Christian or Jewish equivilent of this either:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...rch-paper.html
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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

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    There's your leftist moral equivilence again. Have the countless Islamic atrocities since September 11 taught you nothing?!
    I was talking about the scriptures in the Quran vs the scriptures in the Bible. As for September 11th, I'm sure the British and the Northern Irish can tell you how violent Christians can be. Just ask them about the IRA. Or what about the Oklahoma city bombings? Or the Atlanta olympic bombings?

    Oh yeah, and as for Iraq's "terrorist regimes", the 9/11 commission report found no connections between Saddam and Alqaeda. Alqaeda didn't come to Iraq until after we invaded it, to assist the insurgents. We actually took a non-terrorist country and made it a terrorist country. I brought this up in a homeland security class I'm taking right now online and one of the guys in the class has done tours over there, his response was "Having been there. I agree with you on that. No way to spin it, we should have dealt with Al-Qaeda in Afganistan first. Still proud to have served with some great men and women. Patriots all."
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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    Just ask them about the IRA...
    ..Blowing up civilians to have the United Kingdom divest itself of Northern Ireland against the express wishes of its population. Not God-motivated.



    Or what about the Oklahoma city bombings?
    Two nuts inspired by the Turner Diaries. Motivated by psychotic paranoia rather than by the examples of Jesus Christ and sympathised with only by a few other deranged lunatics.



    Or the Atlanta olympic bombings?
    Only one bomb, detonated in the belief that the Olympic Games were a symptom of socialism. Not God-related.



    And as for terrorism in Iraq, Saddam Hussein's regime was enough. If we had to go in, we had to. I just take exception to the fact that Tony Blair lied when he wielded his now infamous dodgy dossier.

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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    I hate the Nazi comparisons that get flung around, but when you start claiming that a group has inferior genetics, you are crossing the damn line. Seriously, anyone who supports this bull**** needs to be ostracized for their behavior. Don't like Muslims, whatever, but getting into eugenics is simply unacceptable. Some assholes already went down that route with terrible consequences, and there is no excuse for bringing it back.

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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    ..Blowing up civilians to have the United Kingdom divest itself of Northern Ireland against the express wishes of its population. Not God-motivated.





    Two nuts inspired by the Turner Diaries. Motivated by psychotic paranoia rather than by the examples of Jesus Christ and sympathised with only by a few other deranged lunatics.





    Only one bomb, detonated in the belief that the Olympic Games were a symptom of socialism. Not God-related.



    And as for terrorism in Iraq, Saddam Hussein's regime was enough. If we had to go in, we had to. I just take exception to the fact that Tony Blair lied when he wielded his now infamous dodgy dossier.

    And this here is exactly what I'm talking about, differentiating between these "Christian" terrorist and the Christian population as a whole but refusing to do that with the Muslim terrorist and the Muslim population as a whole. The Irish "troubles" started out politically oriented but developed equally potent religious overtones between Catholics and Protestants. Alqaeda attacks, in the same way, can be viewed equally from a political standpoint as they can a religious. Stating that the 9/11 highjackers can't be differentiated from the Muslim population as a whole but the Atlanta bomber, the Unibomber and the IRA can be differentiated from the Christian population, is just simply illogical.
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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    I hate the Nazi comparisons that get flung around, but when you start claiming that a group has inferior genetics, you are crossing the damn line.
    I don't think abnybody's claiming that but it's certainly true that it's claimed they're handicapping themselves.

    We're often told by Liberals (in a claim which debunks their 'institutionally racist Britain holding ethnics back' line) that even in inner city schools, Pakistanis often come top of the class.

    Now they couldn't do that if they're genetically inferior. Even the Bell Curve theory apparently holds Asians in high intellectual esteem!




    And this here is exactly what I'm talking about, differentiating between these "Christian" terrorist and the Christian population as a whole but refusing to do that with the Muslim terrorist and the Muslim population as a whole.
    I don't call all Muslims terrorists and extremists. But considering that Islam was built for conquest whist Christianity is operated for peace, the resultant rise in mass fanaticism and supremacism again in the Islamic world and communities makes the religion ripe for scrutiny.

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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    I don't call all Muslims terrorists and extremists. But considering that Islam was built for conquest whist Christianity is operated for peace, the resultant rise in mass fanaticism and supremacism again in the Islamic world and communities makes the religion ripe for scrutiny.
    Two questions: Please show evidence that "Islam was built for conquest" and that "mass fanticism" exist in the Muslim world. Secondly, what do you suggest we do?
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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    The history of Islam itself is its own evidence. The very concepts of Dar Al Harb, Dar Al Islam and Koran verse 9:29, which exhorts Muslims to subjugate non-Muslims and force them to pay an inferiority tax, are just some totems to prove it.


    In brief, Muhammad was once one of the community leaders in Mecca, who abused his position by trying to convert people to a new religion he'd invented and was banished for it.

    Feeling very sore, he took a gang of faithful followers with him and settled in agricultural Medina, where, in the tradition of all good tyrannical cult leaders, he settled his camp and filled out his religion. Unsurprisingly, this is how Islam laid its bedrock of false victimhood and vengeance against the rest of the scornful world.

    After building up a personality cult based on divine punishment for disobedience, he and his gang tested their new bloodlust by raiding the caravans of Meccan traders and abusing the occupants. To Muhammad, they were the people giving provision to those who had spurned him, so they had to pay. Well, obviously.


    And once Muhammad's vicious thug army was large enough, he went back to Mecca and sacked it in revenge. The religion he had founded, with many peaceful verses to lure in the decent, had proved itself the tool of Muhammad's dictatorship and he gradually took over what is now Saudi Arabia and turned it into a death-worshipping military dictatorship.


    When he became the new boss of Mecca he back-wrote the Koran, justifying his bloody coup by writing things like 'slaughter the unbelievers wherever you find them', and using 'abrogation' to cancel out previous peaceful verses which clashed. And as an old man looking back on his life, Muhammad said "I was made victorious through terror!"

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    Even the Muslims recognise Islam as a war creed, though they try and find ways to dodge saying it means war in all cases (which it does): Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in The Quran

    Muhammad so hated women that one female community leader was pulled apart between two camels: Terrorism and brutality in Muhammad?s thoughts and actions



    Secondly, what do you suggest we do?
    Not much that can be done. You either force a reform of Islam and get the joint jumping even more than it is or leave them alone, which has seen terror mosques and madrassahs exposed on television and 'community leaders' threaten riots if not bought off with 'development grants' and the like.

    Islam is founded on unreconstituted supremacy and dictatorship. You can't order them to reform Islam as Westerners did with Christianity because that would tear up the religion itself.
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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    Except for the places where exactly that has happened.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

    I support Islamic reformers. So much so that I think people should hold their tongues when they claim that Islam is a religion of peace and so therefore are going back to it.

    But their movements are only small rumps in the Islamic world. There's no shared mainstream outlook of peace between the branches as with Christianity. There's no comparison. Nevertheless, I think these people should be used to help reform Islam in the West.



    The most liberal Muslim intellectuals who focused on religious reform include Sayyid al-Qimni, Nasr Abu Zayd, Abdolkarim Soroush, Mohammed Arkoun, Mohammed Shahrour, Ahmed Subhy Mansour, Edip Yuksel, Gamal al-Banna, Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na'im, Ahmed Al-Gubbanchi, Mahmoud Mohammed Taha, and Faraj Foda, the last two were killed after apostasy claims which most of them have been accused of by traditional islamic scholars.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal...s_within_Islam

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