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    Re: 4-year-olds can be sued

    Huh. So if you're not even 5, and you're unlucky enough to live in the loony bin that is New York, you're old enough to be found to be negligent in civil court and held accountable for that negligence.

    Okay, then!

    As far as I'm concerned, the appropriate response to this ruling was to thank the judge on behalf of pedophiles and credit card companies across New York for clarifying the point at which children can make conscious decisions for which they can be held responsible.

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    Re: 4-year-olds can be sued

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Huh. So if you're not even 5, and you're unlucky enough to live in the loony bin that is New York, you're old enough to be found to be negligent in civil court and held accountable for that negligence.

    Okay, then!

    As far as I'm concerned, the appropriate response to this ruling was to thank the judge on behalf of pedophiles and credit card companies across New York for clarifying the point at which children can make conscious decisions for which they can be held responsible.

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    That's really not what this decision is about.

    Again, I think the minimal age threshold to advance a claim of negligence is between 4 and 7 years in every state. The ruling in this case is in no way out of the ordinary.

    The fact that they can bring a claim does not mean that the child will be held responsible. The child's actions will be judged against those of a reasonable child of a similar age.

    Moreover, saying that a child is capable of negligence is not the same as saying that that child can enter into binding contracts or consent to sex.
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    Re: 4-year-olds can be sued

    Having read this thread before I posted, I came to understand (or at least think I understand) what I did not understand before I read it -- that it was a "can we do this" question that got answered, not a "will or should we do this" question.

    I also understand that there is some obscure technical argument for why a decision like this in no way impacts the age at which binding contracts may be signed or sex may be had consensually. Obscure technical arguments are what the legal system is all about.

    My argument is that practically, in the real common-sense world, those things should be directly related. Negligence is essentially a failure to uphold your responsibilities under the social contract that we all enter into at birth and are held responsible for respecting as adults. If you can be held responsible for a breach of the social contract, then you're old enough to give consent to have sex or sign legal contracts.
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    Re: 4-year-olds can be sued

    ...or consent to sex.
    Liberal-Leftists still want them taught about it though, with strings attached too!



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