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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Within a few months DADT will be gone. The only difference is that Obama will pretend that he is supposed to receive the credit vice the hated military and a single judge that tried to end the policy two months ago.

    And best believe he will use "his glory" on the campaign trail in 2012, proving that it was merely a political tool. Like when Democrats preach about black nationalism and minority rights for votes.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's a civil rights issue, should we let the military decide if blacks, Jews, etc. can join? The issue should be whether they can adequately perform their job. Equal protection under the law!!!
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    Yes, people who have certain liberties denied to them do tend to be vocal about it, don't they?
    In case you hadn't noticed, an overwhelming majority of Americans support allowing gays to serve openly. You're the one in the minority, dude.

    So, you both agree that the ban on membership of racist hate groups should be lifted? Afterall, it all about, "civil rights", and whether, or not, they can, "adequately perform their jobs". Yes?

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yet Obama is against repealing DADT. It appears Obama lied to gays when he was campaigning. You need Obama more than he needs you. If Obama is against it who will support gays?
    Again, I didn't vote for Obama. I don't even like Obama. Obama has very little to do with this issue. If McCain were in office (who was Obama's strongest contender in the Presidential race, and whom I actually voted for), I know that this issue would be really hard to be resolved at least in this term. However, Obama being in office doesn't make it a done deal. Congress has to change the rule that doesn't allow gays to serve openly in the military. There is very little chance that Obama would veto a bill repealing DADT and the code that keeps gays from serving openly. McCain, oth, might have.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you both agree that the ban on membership of racist hate groups should be lifted? Afterall, it all about, "civil rights", and whether, or not, they can, "adequately perform their jobs". Yes?

    Equal protection under the law and and ****??????
    The bans on memberships for hate groups are applied completely fairly. No one can join any hate group. Doesn't matter if the person is white, black, Christian, Muslim, atheist, man, woman, heterosexual, or homosexual. A person is not allowed to espouse that they support ideas that either promote violence or intolerance against others. And not letting people to stay in who have a proven possibility of causing problems due purely to their own hatred of another group is not discrimination.

    The ban on gays is discrimination because it only applies to homosexuals. Homosexuals are not allowed to do things that heterosexuals are allowed to do. Homosexuals are not allowed to bring their significant other to military functions and claim them openly as their significant other. Homosexuals are not allowed to tell others that they are homosexual or like people of the same sex, while heterosexuals are. Homosexuals are not allowed to participate in a ceremony to commit to another person, whether the union is legally recognized by a government within the US or not. Heterosexuals are not only allowed to participate in such ceremonies, the military gives them incentives to do so, including BAH or housing, separation pay, and medical/dental benefits for spouses.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Well today we got another vote in the senate against the repeal of DADT when Senator Kirk from Illinois was sworn in........You did not have the votes before that you sure don't have them now.

    Kirk's arrival boosts GOP - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com



    And though he considers himself a social moderate, he’s expected to vote no on two bills Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he would try to pass in the lame duck: the immigration-related DREAM Act and the defense authorization bill that includes language to repeal the military’s ban on openly gay service members, the latter of which Kirk voted against while serving in the House.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well today we got another vote in the senate against the repeal of DADT when Senator Kirk from Illinois was sworn in........You did not have the votes before that you sure don't have them now.

    Kirk's arrival boosts GOP - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com



    And though he considers himself a social moderate, he’s expected to vote no on two bills Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he would try to pass in the lame duck: the immigration-related DREAM Act and the defense authorization bill that includes language to repeal the military’s ban on openly gay service members, the latter of which Kirk voted against while serving in the House.
    Personally, I think all these Congressmen are playing policitical games. "I won't vote for this or that because that is what so and so wants me to do" or worse "I'm not voting for this because all the other people in my policitical party aren't".

    Now, I would honestly like to see this bill come up separately to avoid anyone being able to use the excuse for voting against it of "it wasn't the actual repeal, but the politics of how they tried to do it". This way we would force Republicans to accept complete responsibility for why they aren't repealing DADT.

    And McCain's explaination of why he is against repeal is a load of bull. He was in the military. He should absolutely know that military members should not be allowed to decide what is best for them in something like this. Military members have to work with people they are uncomfortable working alongside each and every day.

    Heck, I think even if they were to ask the military, and most said they were fine with repealing it, some Republicans would find an excuse to vote against it.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Navy, has the DoD investigation findings been presented to congress yet?
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    I find it funny how the people that are the most opinionated about this wouldn't dream of serving in the military. They want to make the rules while they work part-time at a Starbucks and live with Mom and Dad.

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I find it funny how the people that are the most opinionated about this wouldn't dream of serving in the military. They want to make the rules while they work part-time at a Starbucks and live with Mom and Dad.
    Actually....the overwhelming majority of the military support ending the ban. Are they the people that you say "wouldn't dream of serving in the military"....LOL
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I find it funny how the people that are the most opinionated about this wouldn't dream of serving in the military. They want to make the rules while they work part-time at a Starbucks and live with Mom and Dad.
    It's funny how two of the most vocal on this issue have served, and both support ending DADT...
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