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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    One unconsidered aspect in all of this is that if gays were in the army and unemcumbered, might they feel a huge sexual and social frustration anyway?

    A Liberal utopia would be be for the 'rainbow' guys to talk about their botty chums without anybody caring or being disgusted. But even in that case, what about the homos boxed up in the barracks with all those butch guys every night and not being able to take any? I believe there are even strict rules on man-woman things in the services.

    At least in the outside world there are magazines, club scenes and special alternate universes to thrive in. You'd have to bring all that on-site as well.
    Perhaps what you fail to recognize is that unlike you (as it appears) most men, gay or straight are perfectly capable of controlling their urges and can act professionally.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    I'm not saying they'll feel up the other guys just because they want to.

    I'm talking about frustration not unfettered behaviour.

    (Though when it comes to 'liberals', I'm not surprised that the two concepts are mixed up. All we ever get from them are chapter and verse on how people are bigots for not agreeing to let some flavour-of-the-month group get up to what they want to or be 'understood' for it. Usually it's to do with criminals.)

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    I'm not saying they'll feel up the other guys just because they want to.

    I'm talking about frustration not unfettered behaviour.

    (Though when it comes to 'liberals', I'm not surprised that the two concepts are mixed up. All we ever get from them are chapter and verse on how people are bigots for not agreeing to let some flavour-of-the-month group get up to what they want to or be 'understood' for it. Usually it's to do with criminals.)
    Same Diff....you try to argue that gay men would be overly frustrated by not being able to have sex with all the men in their barracks....puhlease......so the straight men sit around frustrated all day because they can't go out and have sex?

    Again....most men....straight or gay are perfectly capable of handling their urges and act professionally. They enter the military with that understanding....both gay and straight.....

    Perhaps you need to figure out how to deal with your sexual frustrations.....most of us can.
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So....Navy...let me ask you this then. Its ok for people like you to run around in the military "bragging" about boinking another man's wife while her husband is away on leave serving the country.....but a gay person can't even say "I'm gay" without violating DADT.

    How does this hypocrisy further the value of our military?
    I believe that is grounds for a court martial

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Their fellow soldiers/marines/sailors ask, maybe not directly, but it's not like everyone just talks about what their job is going to be like that day. Most servicemembers talk to each other about friends, families, and relationships. It is natural, especially when people are spending months at a time together.

    Common conversations would include if someone is dating anyone special or talking about how good a girl/guy looks. If a guy is gay and another servicemember asks him if he is dating anyone, he could honestly answer yes without violating DADT. However, if he is asked a more specific question about a girl he might be dating or for more details, then the gay guy would have to lie or decline to answer to avoid violating DADT, where as if the same guy was straight he could easily answer with no fear of being "discovered" and possibly kicked out, just for talking about a person they are dating. And straight guys and girls can have and show pics of themselves kissing boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives, whereas, gay guys and girls can't without chancing having the wrong person see them and the possibility of being kicked out. Straight soldiers can share wedding photos with anyone, including posting them online, without any fear whatsoever of being kicked out for such things. Gay soldiers can't. Straight soldiers can invite their significant others to service balls and dance and be an open couple. The significant other could honestly answer questions about their relationship, if he/she wanted to. Gay soldiers would have to hide their relationship they might have with a "friend" they took to a service ball (if they could bring the person at all). And their significant other, if able to come, would not be able to honestly answer any questions about the relationship. And by relationship questions, I am referring to even innocent questions like how long the couple has been together, where they think the relationship may go, if they want to have/raise children, if they've met each other's family, etc. These are some types of questions that my husband's Marine buddies and chain of command asked me while at a Marine Corps ball when we first started dating.
    Nice spin but don't answer and report them. You want to make something out of what ifs you can't prove happen

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Its ok for people like you to run around in the military "bragging" about boinking another man's wife while her husband is away on leave serving the country....
    It's folks from the left-side of centre who enjoy the concepts of 'open relationships' and legality of polygamy for Muslims. It's quite natural for them to want such morality-warping 'ideals' put out universally in the name of 'freedom'.

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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I believe that is grounds for a court martial
    Well....Navy didn't get courtmartialed for it.....
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nice spin but don't answer and report them. You want to make something out of what ifs you can't prove happen
    Can't prove happen? That is every day life. What planet are you from?
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    It's folks from the left-side of centre who enjoy the concepts of 'open relationships' and legality of polygamy for Muslims. It's quite natural for them to want such morality-warping 'ideals' put out universally in the name of 'freedom'.
    You haven't been around here very long......the person bragging about committing adultry with another soldier's wife is hardly someone who could be classified as "Left-side of centre".
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    Re: 95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well....Navy didn't get courtmartialed for it.....
    You know that he did it?

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