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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    The only problem with that is that some kids have a hard time mastering the English language for various reasons even if their parents speak English. Adding another language at that age completely confuses them and makes it even harder to learn to read, write and speak in English.

    I don't have a problem with making it an option for a Spanish class in elementary school. I don't think the whole day should be taught in Spanish, it should just be a one class a day thing if the parents agree to it.
    He didn't say the whole day should be taught in Spanish. And if some of the kids can't keep up with it, for whatever reason, doesn't mean we shouldnt prepare those who can keep up for the world and future carrers with a second language as best we can.

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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    The only problem with that is that some kids have a hard time mastering the English language for various reasons even if their parents speak English. Adding another language at that age completely confuses them and makes it even harder to learn to read, write and speak in English.

    I don't have a problem with making it an option for a Spanish class in elementary school. I don't think the whole day should be taught in Spanish, it should just be a one class a day thing if the parents agree to it.
    No, it really doesn't. Young children can learn more than one language easily. Far more easily than adults, in fact. The younger, the better, when it comes to language.
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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, it really doesn't. Young children can learn more than one language easily. Far more easily than adults, in fact. The younger, the better, when it comes to language.
    Yep, this was my whole point. Teaching language in high school is harder on the student, than teaching it in elementary school.
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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If this was Social Studies, I'd be annoyed.

    But if I understand rightly, this is IN SPANISH CLASS.
    Saying the pledge of allegiance is considered patriotic,saying it in another language other than english is totally unpatriotic. It just like the Star spangled banner, it should only be said in English which is our country's language is despite what some globalist who laugh at patriotism may think.

    I took spanish in high school. As I recall, we were required to speak Spanish in class and learn spanish phrases, how shocking.

    So you would be happy if they sung the star spangled banner in English?



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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Saying the pledge of allegiance is considered patriotic,saying it in another language other than english is totally unpatriotic. It just like the Star spangled banner, it should only be said in English which is our country's language is despite what some globalist who laugh at patriotism may think.
    Shouldn't we sing it in British since that is where the music actually came from?

    Is the content of the Pledge the important part, or is the language spoken the important part?
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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    You know, whenever I want to scoff at the notion that opposition to illegal immigration is rooted in racism, something like this comes along. I know not all people who take issue with illegal immigration are close minded bigots (I'm one of them in fact), but this clearly shows that some are.

    I could see this being an issue in a social studies class or something, but this is SPANISH CLASS. The object of the class is to teach students to speak SPANISH. Why not use the pledge? The ideals and the respect for our nation and heritage embodied in the pledge are far more important than the language they are spoken in. Heck, I'd be happy to hear the pledge spoken in any language, since the ideals are what real patriotism is rooted in.
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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Saying the pledge of allegiance is considered patriotic,saying it in another language other than english is totally unpatriotic. It just like the Star spangled banner, it should only be said in English which is our country's language is despite what some globalist who laugh at patriotism may think.


    It should be recited in Iroquois! English was the language of those damned British oppressors!

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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It just like the Star spangled banner, it should only be said in English which is our country's language is despite what some globalist who laugh at patriotism may think.
    It's impossible for someone to be a patriot and to think that it's an acceptable assignment?
    If someone thinks it's acceptable assignment they must be a globalist (w/e you mean by that term)?
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you would be happy if they sung the star spangled banner in English?
    I can't speak for anyone else, but my happiness is independent of anybody singing the Star Spangled Banner w/o regard to the language. YMMV.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Teacher forces students to learn the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Saying the pledge of allegiance is considered patriotic,saying it in another language other than english is totally unpatriotic. It just like the Star spangled banner, it should only be said in English which is our country's language is despite what some globalist who laugh at patriotism may think.
    The pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist and included the well known Bellamy salute......


    It is in poor taste.


    Nationalism was in good taste until WW2 and then it became un-American. As far as I'm concerned it still is, especially by those who claim to be "patriots".

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