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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Thank you for proving my point.

    You as a good conservative, totally ignore the massive spending spree Republican administrations (Reagan, Bush 1 and 2) plus in periods a Republican controlled congress (both houses from 1995 to 2006)....Yes under your party's leadership in one way or another (Congress or President), the US went from under 1 trillion in debt to 11 trillion.. congrats! But you are first there to promote the fact that one from the opposition wanted to stop deficit spending in 2006, one year before the **** hit the fan.... that is called brain dead partisanship. You, like most of your conservative cohorts, constantly blame Pelosi, Reid and Obama for the crap hole you are in despite it was your lot that had a large (not total) fault in getting you into that hole.... it is ironic you dont mention any of the Republican favourites present and past, who had a large part in the problem.. oh yea they are Republicans and Republicans cant admit any wrongdoing.. it would make them explode!



    Both, need to be way more specific. And frankly so what.. The Republicans had power of Congress from 1995 to 2006, and here the debt went up by many trillions, with deficit spending each year. Under Reagan, the deficit spending was huge, as well as under Bush 1. Are you seriously giving them a free pass for all that but going after Pelosi for "single handed" drove up the debt and deficit during a massive economic crisis that was started under a Republican controlled congress? Are you serious?



    Yes several times. It was in the crapper in the early 1980s. And who was it btw that was instrumental in causing the 2007 crash? Oh yea, the Republican dominated congress from 1994 onwards.. ups. A Republican controlled congress and later White House that was warned of the problem, but ignored it. A Republican congress that was instrumental in removing the 1930s legislation that made it possible for the crisis to even happen... Again, we keep going back to something the Republicans were involved in.. but I am guessing you are gonna claim it was a Democrat issue since it was Clinton who signed the law..



    I know fully well how you got into the mess, it is people like you that are in full denial of what happened. Your comments clearly show that. Let me guess, you gonna blame the dems and Fannie and Freddie like a good conservative? And you claim I have no clue about how everything happened? You do know that over 85% of failed sub-prime mortgages that drove the economy into the ditch were not from Fannie and Freddie right?

    American people are not quick learners btw, since you have STILL not fixed the problems that got you into the **** hole you are in now. You all have basically ignored the fundamental problems that got you into the mess.
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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm sure he thinks Bush crashed Spain's economy too.

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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Please... don't say 'blew a wad' in a thread about Peolsi....
    haha - a hot sticky one.
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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm sure he thinks Bush crashed Spain's economy too.
    Well, to be honest, Bush was terrible for the American economy. His tax cuts increased the debt and although spurred initial growth they initially slowed the economy down and the tax revenues relative to GDP never improved. Plus, he over extended the military by putting us both in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we all know there was no good reason to go to Iraq. Lets not forget about the $700 billion bailout he signed either. No wonder he had the lowest approval rating of any president. Obama is a great politician and good American, its the economy Bush created that has him getting such a bad rep.

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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    It amazing how much faith people have in Republicans to "look out" for your best interest. What republicans don't do wrong or something? Just like democrats, they are politicians who lie as well.
    What is more amusing is that these people think the GOP has an actual idea on how to solve the problems.

    Boehner has come out for Obama not to sign any job killing bills....but at the same time wants drastic cuts. What happens when demand from government stops? Jobs go away. And all the jobs dependent on those jobs go away. Boehner has just said to Obama to stop cutting spending! The uber funny **** is that people think that makes sense in the context of reducing the deficit.

    What happens when jobs dependent on spending go away? Revenue declines. And the deficit expands. More and more economists are coming out saying that the GOP plan will actually increase the deficit not reduce it.

    The GOP is just as lost as the Democrats. Just as every government in history was lost on how to fix a leverage recession. More then a few uber morons here think that financial/leverage recessions are no different from regular recessions. And every time I ask one of them to explain the difference they promptly get the hell out of the thread.
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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm sure he thinks Bush crashed Spain's economy too.
    Greenspan would be more appropriate. But that would require one to understand the relationship between the fed, US bond rates and EU economics. Which MAYBE 5 people here do.
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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Greenspan would be more appropriate. But that would require one to understand the relationship between the fed, US bond rates and EU economics. Which MAYBE 5 people here do.
    Why don't you ask one of the five. Maybe they'll explain it to you.

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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why don't you ask one of the five. Maybe they'll explain it to you.
    Why would I ask myself?

    You can stop pretending you are smarter then me.
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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Why would I ask myself?

    You can stop pretending you are smarter then me.
    It's been my experience over my many years of dealing with people, that anyone that insists on telling everyone how "smart" they are, typically has an inferiority complex and believe they must put on an act trying to fool people.

    You fit that mold perfectly.

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    Re: Debt Has Inceased 5 Trillion since Speaker Pelosi Vowed " No New Deficit Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It's been my experience over my many years of dealing with people, that anyone that insists on telling everyone how "smart" they are, typically has an inferiority complex and believe they must put on an act trying to fool people.

    You fit that mold perfectly.
    You seem to be exceptionally confused with the notions of telling verse showing. I demonstrate superior intelligence and knowledge. So much so you deperately ran away from every technical point I made and generally avoid actually demonstrating knowledge on a wide variety of subjects, typically fleeing from threads where your opponent has demonstrated superior intelligence.

    Again, you can stop pretending you are smarter then I.

    It's been my experience over my many years of dealing with people, that anyone that insists on telling everyone how they don't know anything (as you typically do), typically has an inferiority complex and believe they must put on an act trying to fool people.

    You fit that mold perfectly.

    I demonstrate how others' arguments are invalid with technical points. You declare others to be wrong and ignorant...and then run away from defending such accusations.
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