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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    W/o the threat of Hussein giving his WMD to terrorists, the war would not have happened.
    I comment on what is, has been, and can be shown as true. I don't speculate on "what if" situations. I leave that to people who claim to be fortune tellers.



    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    As GWB said in his piece up thread, WMD were the main reason.
    Also as Wolfowitz noted, when they were planning on how to sell the invasion, it was decided that the threat from the WMD was the only one of the reasons that could justify sending our military into harm's way.
    WMDs were how the war was "sold" to the American people.

    In every war in US history the government needs the support of the people to go to war, to stay in war, and to mop up post-war. WMDs were the pre-war justification. Its too bad for the Bush administration that the propaganda machine fell flat when no WMDs were found. That was a major blunder on their part which will always be remembered.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I knew we were re-invading a country foolishly and needlessly. There have been examples of this in the past, like the one presented above. You learn from history. If you don't learn from it, you repeat it, they say. That's what we did. And look where we are.
    Yeah.. You "knew" alright.

    The very next time a dangerous country is acting like they have WMD's and not fullfilling their agreements under international treaties, i'm sure Obama will yell for them to "go get that TryReading guy". Think of all the money that can be saved by just trusting our national defence to you. Sure, you'll be wrong almost all of the time, but just think - you'll always have Iraq. The one time you were right.

    Somebody started this thread with information that might appear to mean we actually did find significant amounts of wmds. Woweee! But, we will spend at least a trillion dollars, and thousands of our lives, and to show for it we've found, what's your estimate, maybe a million dollars worth of useless mustard gas?

    Goddam smart investment.
    Well, IMO there were and will be further benefits from this invesment. But if the only one you can see is the little bit of WMD that we found, good for you.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I comment on what is, has been, and can be shown as true. I don't speculate on "what if" situations. I leave that to people who claim to be fortune tellers.
    You offer support for the idea that the threat of WMD was essential and critical for the US to "to go to war, to stay in war, and to mop up post-war."
    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    WMDs were how the war was "sold" to the American people.
    In every war in US history the government needs the support of the people to go to war, to stay in war, and to mop up post-war. WMDs were the pre-war justification. Its too bad for the Bush administration that the propaganda machine fell flat when no WMDs were found. That was a major blunder on their part which will always be remembered.
    If the war was not "sold" to the electorate, we would not have gone.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You offer support for the idea that the threat of WMD was essential and critical for the US to "to go to war, to stay in war, and to mop up post-war."
    I only offer support that the Bush administration made effective use of WMDs/Al-Queda/Terrorism/9-11 as propaganda in order to garner support for the war. Propaganda that is part of every war that needs to be "sold" to the populace.

    Based on the history of our relations with those in the region, the writing in the resolution, and others things, its seems clear that there were far more and complex reasons the leaders wished to go to war than simply what the propaganda so clearly put forth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If the war was not "sold" to the electorate, we would not have gone.
    I find it unlikely that a democratic republic would go to war without at least partial support of its people.

    I do NOT claim to know what would of happened. I leave such speculation for others to debate.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    These Wikileaks are great, apparently, as long as they make Bush look bad.
    Also the majority of chem attacks that have occurred in Iraq were home brewed and normally used off the self legal chemicals. For example many insurgents attempted to use IEDs or bombs which mixed Bleach and Ammonia, it wasn't very effective because the range was small and required the soldier to remain in that spot for a long time. Basically it was about as effective as the Mustard gas used in WW1, but even less so because soldiers weren't stuck in a trench.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Mustard and blister agents are not WMDs lol.

    Bush on WMDs:



    False.

    Bush on Yellow Cake Uranium:



    False.

    Anybody who thinks mustard gas and blister agent are some of the most 'lethal weapons ever devised' has obviously never heard of agent orange, AQ Khan's thermonuclear technology, NK's plutonium bombs and all the others held by Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia etc. Seriously, Iraq was a crippled little bull**** state we managed to overthrow in 3 weeks.
    Do you.... know... anything about blister agents?
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, snoopes says so. Again, we've all been through this before. You have read discussions on this before haven't you?
    Snopes is an arm of the leftists designed to deny the truth. If you believe Snopes, you probably use Wikipedia as your prime source of information.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I mean the White House, and everyone in Congress who voted for war, were fools.
    Glad to see you are an equal opportunity labeler because there were Democrats who voted for that war.


    Okay, all those trucks? You mean trucks that were exposed by our intelligence?
    Satellite photos.

    You tell me about the trucks. And tell me why, in 7 years, we still don't know if weapons were moved in them.
    Tell me. Did we attack Syria? If not, why didn't we? I'm not privy to CIA briefings. Maybe you are and will enlighten your readers.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    You know, I've been waiting for all the free oil we were supposed to get by invading Iraq. How's that working out? Can I expect my discount gas card in the mail sometime soon because I gotta tell ya, I've been waiting since 2001 for that damn thing and it still hasn't gotten here.

    I mean, "blood for oil" was the rallying cry for years - so if it were true, we should be grabbing the oil right?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Snopes is an arm of the leftists designed to deny the truth. If you believe Snopes, you probably use Wikipedia as your prime source of information.
    I know, I know. Reality has a liberal bias. Anything that factually contradicts your world view, your bias, must be liberally biased. I got that.

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