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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats precisely the point. The UN was impotent in their reponse. The world was impotent in their response. Following the firsat gulf war the UN inspection teams catalogued thousands og gallons of varying types of biological weapons and even more biological spores used for the creation of more weapons. They identified delivery systems. those remain unaccounted for. 11 years is a loong time to hide, sell, trade, bury, or perhaps even destroy weapons.
    I sure don't want the US to go to war for an impotent UN.

    I don't the US to go to war for any foolish or misguided reasons.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Buddy? No...at the time he was seen as the lesser of two evils. Every president since the end of WW2 has identified the need to stop the south and westward expansion of the soviet union. When Carter lost Iran it was deemed necessary to create another alliance. Yes...Saddam was as ruthless and brutal and ugly in the 80's as always. No...we didnt condone it but yes...we overlooked it. Hindsight is a bitch, isnt it...especially hindsight from the comfort of an armchair where you have the luxury of other people making tough decisions and all you have to to is whine about their judgements.
    Why are you whining about Carter, and other partisans here whining about Clinton? You're leaving out a couple of administrations, aren't you?

    Wouldn't it all be over now if HW Bush had gone all the way?
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Why are you whining about Carter, and other partisans here whining about Clinton? You're leaving out a couple of administrations, aren't you?

    Wouldn't it all be over now if HW Bush had gone all the way?
    You have ANY understanding of the middle east? During the first Gulf War Bush went precisely as far as he could with the 'coalition'. You might want to understand a little about the arab people and what would likely have happened if we had gone into Baghdad. That being said...Im critical of Carter...but you may note NOT critical of Clinton as commander in chief ( tho I admit to READILY pointing out the mindless liberal ideologues on this site that swallow everything Clinton fed them yet call Bush a liar for making identical claims) and have also FREQUENTLY here praised Obama for the anti terror efforts. So try peddling your partisan bull**** elsewhere.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I do agree with his decision, though.
    I'm sure you do. Based on what you've said so far, you seem to be a fan of constantly kicking the can to future administrations. It worked really well with N.Korea, no?
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    washingtonpost.com: Some Iraq Analysts Felt Pressure From Cheney Visits

    Vice President Cheney and his most senior aide made multiple trips to the CIA over the past year to question analysts studying Iraq's weapons programs and alleged links to al Qaeda, creating an environment in which some analysts felt they were being pressured to make their assessments fit with the Bush administration's policy objectives, according to senior intelligence officials.

    With Cheney taking the lead in the administration last August in advocating military action against Iraq by claiming it had weapons of mass destruction, the visits by the vice president and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, "sent signals, intended or otherwise, that a certain output was desired from here," one senior agency official said yesterday.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You have ANY understanding of the middle east? During the first Gulf War Bush went precisely as far as he could with the 'coalition'. You might want to understand a little about the arab people and what would likely have happened if we had gone into Baghdad. That being said...Im critical of Carter...but you may note NOT critical of Clinton as commander in chief ( tho I admit to READILY pointing out the mindless liberal ideologues on this site that swallow everything Clinton fed them yet call Bush a liar for making identical claims) and have also FREQUENTLY here praised Obama for the anti terror efforts. So try peddling your partisan bull**** elsewhere.
    No, seems to me you were mentioning the Clinton and even Carter administrations. That was my point. But there were others in between. And, you know, they were of the other party.


    Also, I haven't called Bush a liar. I referred to him as a fool because of the unnecessary re-invasion he wanted so badly.

    But someone in the White House was misleading other leaders with the 'alternative intelligence' scheme.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I'm sure you do. Based on what you've said so far, you seem to be a fan of constantly kicking the can to future administrations. It worked really well with N.Korea, no?
    I'm a fan of President Bush's decision not to go further. He was obviously a proponent of that too, so I'm in good company.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I'm a fan of President Bush's decision not to go further. He was obviously a proponent of that too, so I'm in good company.
    Not sure how agreeing with one of the individuals (Clinton, Bush1 and Carter being others) that allowed North Korea to obtain nukes and allegedly ship the tech around the world is considered good company. However, Bush's hand was rather forced, both politically and militarily, by the decision to invade iraq.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not sure how agreeing with one of the individuals (Clinton, Bush1 and Carter being others) that allowed North Korea to obtain nukes and allegedly ship the tech around the world is considered good company. However, Bush's hand was rather forced, both politically and militarily, by the decision to invade iraq.
    Was agreeing with Bush 1 on his decision to stop where he did in Iraq.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I understand, but they gave a man who wanted to optionally invade Iraq the power to do it. I just appreciate the people in Congress that knew better.
    So do I. I would have had no problem if all who shirked their responsibility lost their jobs regardles sof party.

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