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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You dont recall the December 1998 missile and bombing campaign in retalliation for Iraq not living up to its obligations?
    Here -- read:
    Transcript President Clinton explains Iraq strike - CNN
    You might want to look up the definition of war.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If this were true. then you could prove your claim.
    Bush told us that Saddam absolutely had stockpiles of WMDs. Saddam didn't. Therefore Bush was wrong. What he told us was not true. Correct? He told us a lie.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Not all Democrats (or Republicans) voted for the war. There are a couple of people here who seem to be implying that all Democrats were for the war.

    Actually the vote was not for war, but a vote to shirk their responsibility and allow the president to decide. Just saying . . . .

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Years of de-stabilization policy had lead to a situation so unstable that genocide had occured by the dictator against his own people (twice if you count the Marsh Arabs) and mass starvation was occuring due to the sale of oil-for-food trade. The situation was totally screwed up, out of control and well... enough was enough. We had to go clean it up.

    Fortunately, our policy there is now stabilization and Iraq has made huge strides towards a modern government in very few years. I only hope that Iraq will continue to improve and someday soon realize its great potential. What was once a genocidal dictatorship might become a beacon in a dark part of the world. Long live Iraqi democracy.
    genocide had not accured for some years. If we ahd intervened when that was going on, that might have been reason, a just reason to invade. As it was not going on, and had not been going on for years, that arguement doesn't really hold up. Instead, as I have said, we added injury to injury.

    And while I agree sanctions were hurting the Iraqi people, those could have been adjusted without oil for food or invasion. Problems can be spotted and adjusted for. Saddam was very isolated and not likely to pose much threat no what we did.

    Also, people in NK are suffering now. Should we invade?

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh please.

    How can anyone take that (or anything nearby) seriously?
    It is corrupt and last I heard, they are still torturing their own people. Not to mention there is a lot of infighting and violence today. Iraq may one day be a better place. But it may have become better over time without the cost and in a less deadly manner had their future really been what we were concerned with.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Bush told us that Saddam absolutely had stockpiles of WMDs. Saddam didn't. Therefore Bush was wrong. What he told us was not true. Correct? He told us a lie.
    the semantic issue that has been posed was regarding bush's intent
    is there a smoking gun email or other document which evidences his intent to lie about WMD's (and the association with al qaeda)
    while there is no smoking gun, there is an opportunity to examine the veracity of what the administration expressed
    when we see how they would lie to us about Pat Tillman, or how they would disclose a covert CIA agent for partisan political purposes, it appears to be a very tiny leap to also conclude that dicknbush also lied to us about WMDs and the supposed al qaeda connection, in a neocon hatched scheme to take out saddam
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the semantic issue that has been posed was regarding bush's intent
    is there a smoking gun email or other document which evidences his intent to lie about WMD's (and the association with al qaeda)
    while there is no smoking gun, there is an opportunity to examine the veracity of what the administration expressed
    when we see how they would lie to us about Pat Tillman, or how they would disclose a covert CIA agent for partisan political purposes, it appears to be a very tiny leap to also conclude that dicknbush also lied to us about WMDs and the supposed al qaeda connection, in a neocon hatched scheme to take out saddam
    To do so requires critical thinking skills.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    genocide had not accured for some years. If we ahd intervened when that was going on, that might have been reason, a just reason to invade. As it was not going on, and had not been going on for years, that arguement doesn't really hold up. Instead, as I have said, we added injury to injury.

    And while I agree sanctions were hurting the Iraqi people, those could have been adjusted without oil for food or invasion. Problems can be spotted and adjusted for. Saddam was very isolated and not likely to pose much threat no what we did.

    Also, people in NK are suffering now. Should we invade?
    When people rely on what government tells them, they can never know the truth. The people running Iraq now are just as corrupt as Saddam, there are just more of them.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Bush told us that Saddam absolutely had stockpiles of WMDs. Saddam didn't. Therefore Bush was wrong. What he told us was not true. Correct? He told us a lie.
    You havent been paying attention.
    There is a clear difference between being wrong and lying.
    To prove that GWB lied, you have to prove that he knew what he said was wrong.

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    You might want to look up the definition of war.
    A war is a series of acts of war perprtrated by one party against another.
    A state dropping bombs and lobbing missiles onto another state is unquestionably an act of war; a series of these events (such as in December 1998) is, by definition, a war.

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