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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Apparently back in 1994
    And he was spot on back then.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    And he was spot on back then.
    So dick chaney's opinion is valuable to you when you agree with him but worthless when he doesn't. How very consistent of you.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So dick chaney's opinion is valuable to you when you agree with him but worthless when he doesn't. How very consistent of you.
    The consequences of the invasion of Iraq have proven his predictions in 1994 were accurate. He was right on. It is what it is.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    The consequences of the invasion of Iraq have proven his predictions in 1994 were accurate. He was right on. It is what it is.
    I agree that it is debatable whether invading Iraq and removing Saddam was worth the effort, both from a pre-war point of view and in hind-sight.

    What I have disagreed with is the claim that the administrations reasons for war was limited to the following:
    1) Oil
    2) WMDs
    3) Saddam's believed association with al-qaeda
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I agree that it is debatable whether invading Iraq and removing Saddam was worth the effort, both from a pre-war point of view and in hind-sight.

    What I have disagreed with is the claim that the administrations reasons for war was limited to the following:
    1) Oil
    2) WMDs
    3) Saddam's believed association with al-qaeda
    There could have been a hundred reasons for invading Iraq, but the only legitmate reason for the USA to invade any country is an imminant threat to our security.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    There could have been a hundred reasons for invading Iraq, but the only legitmate reason for the USA to invade any country is an imminant threat to our security.
    You are entitled to your opinion. Others may agree.

    I disagree because the world is far too complex and dynamic to judge actions based on such a platitude.
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion. Others may agree.

    I disagree because the world is far too complex and dynamic to judge actions based on such a platitude.
    So do you believe the US had a right to invade Iraq, destroy it's property and infrastructure, kill tens of thousands of Iraqis and replace it's corrupt regime with another just as corrupt at a cost of a trillion US taxpayer dollars and over 4000 American lives?
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    So do you believe the US had a right to invade Iraq, destroy it's property and infrastructure, kill tens of thousands of Iraqis and replace it's corrupt regime with another just as corrupt at a cost of a trillion US taxpayer dollars and over 4000 American lives?
    This is NOT a discussion on my personal political or philosophical beliefs. If you wish to discuss that then start a new thread. This is a discussion on what really happened up to and during the iraq war as well as the reasons and motivations by our leaders for their decisions and actions. Please stay focused.

    I agree that it is debatable whether invading Iraq and removing Saddam was worth the effort, both from a pre-war point of view and in hind-sight.

    What I have disagreed with is the claim that the administrations reasons for war was limited to the following:
    1) Oil
    2) WMDs
    3) Saddam's believed association with al-qaeda
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    This is NOT a discussion on my personal political or philosophical beliefs. If you wish to discuss that then start a new thread. This is a discussion on what really happened up to and during the iraq war as well as the reasons and motivations by our leaders for their decisions and actions. Please stay focused.

    I agree that it is debatable whether invading Iraq and removing Saddam was worth the effort, both from a pre-war point of view and in hind-sight.

    What I have disagreed with is the claim that the administrations reasons for war was limited to the following:
    1) Oil
    2) WMDs
    3) Saddam's believed association with al-qaeda
    then whose beliefs are you presenting in your posts if those words are not your own?

    and your aim is off as you describe the focus of this thread. here it is:
    Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results
    that appeal to change topic direction is the post of one who has painted himself into a corner he does not like. welcome to DP. next time, wave the white flag instead of whining when it becomes obvious you have lost the debate
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    Re: Wikileaks show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq-With Surprising Results

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    And what were those reasons why they did not invade Baghdad or remove Saddam, Boo? Do you even know? Please present them.

    Do you know what the consequences were (good and bad) of that choice?
    Yes, I do. He said going it was easy, leaving hard. We did not have world support, and the UN wasn't with us. He knew the cost vwersus the gain was a loser, and he was right.

    Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney noted that invading the country would get the United States "bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq." Bush later explained that he did not give the order to overthrow the Iraqi government because it would have "incurred incalculable human and political costs... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq."[13

    Bush, George H. W.

    We then played games, hoping the Iraqis would do it. We worked with Chalibi (remember that name) and that led to Kurds getting killed and left without our help. I suggest you goggle Chalabi on that and then ask why Bush jr choose to trust him later.

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