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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Actually it did. You think the economy is bad now? If the stimulus hadn't happened it would be the great depression part deux.
    "What would have been" is a hypothetical - in fact no one knows what would have been any more than one can look into a crystal ball and predict the 2025 World Series winner. Democrats and those who use this idiotic talking point about "what would have been" seem to want us to believe Democrats have some secret time machine in which they traveled to the future and saw what happened and came back in time to correct it.

    I like Dr. Who just as much as the next guy - but that's a television show and time machines don't really exist. So this nonsense about what "would have or wouldn't have happened" is BS.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    Define 'a lot'. It did SOME good, certainly. But the vast majority of the Crapulus did nothgin to help the economy, unemployment, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Actually it did. You think the economy is bad now? If the stimulus hadn't happened it would be the great depression part deux.
    I'm still waiting for links to credible sources to back up statements like that. So far, no one has bothered to rpoduce any. Until then, it's just an opinion... not a fact.

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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I like Dr. Who just as much as the next guy - but that's a television show and time machines don't really exist. So this nonsense about what "would have or wouldn't have happened" is BS.
    I was wondering when someone would comment on my account name


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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Meh, any Democratic Senate majority leader could have pushed through a stimulus bill. In fact, a GOOD Senate majority leader would've pushed through a much larger one. Reid doesn't deserve much credit for it...but he does deserve some of the blame for it not being bigger and better.

    He's a d-bag. Hopefully Chuck Schumer replaces him as the Democratic leader, whether or not Reid wins his reelection bid.
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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I was wondering when someone would comment on my account name

    I go back to Dr #4 - Tom Baker. Care for a jelly baby?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    "What would have been" is a hypothetical - in fact no one knows what would have been any more than one can look into a crystal ball and predict the 2025 World Series winner. Democrats and those who use this idiotic talking point about "what would have been" seem to want us to believe Democrats have some secret time machine in which they traveled to the future and saw what happened and came back in time to correct it.

    I like Dr. Who just as much as the next guy - but that's a television show and time machines don't really exist. So this nonsense about what "would have or wouldn't have happened" is BS.
    I have to disagree with this. Modelling possible outcomes of various actions is critical to choosing an action to take over a situation. Even from simple things (if I don't put dishes in the dishwasher, they will not get clean) to complex (weather, economics, etc) thing, we can not simply make decisions in a vacuum or else we will never have an idea of whether any decision was ever right.

    Discussing possible outcomes to decisions, as long as their is good evidence to back up those outcomes, is perfectly valid.

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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I go back to Dr #4 - Tom Baker. Care for a jelly baby?
    My daughter is in the middle of knitting my scarf now... it's about 11 feet long at the moment. I also plan to make a full size TARDIS as a garden shed next year.

    I started watching at the tail end of Jon Pertwee, and never stopped. I know where to get actual jelly babies if you are looking...lol. I'd still love to give Liz Sladen a 'ride' in my TARDIS

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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I have to disagree with this. Modelling possible outcomes of various actions is critical to choosing an action to take over a situation. Even from simple things (if I don't put dishes in the dishwasher, they will not get clean) to complex (weather, economics, etc) thing, we can not simply make decisions in a vacuum or else we will never have an idea of whether any decision was ever right.

    Discussing possible outcomes to decisions, as long as their is good evidence to back up those outcomes, is perfectly valid.
    It's perfectly valid to you and those who agree with you for partisan political reasons. To me, it's not valid - no matter which political party is espousing it. Possible outcomes? No --- that's not what was said, it's being stated as a fact, not a possible outcome. And what you deem "evidence" is highly suspect... "modeling outcomes" with numbers? You can make numbers and statistics prove anything. I'm sure you DO agree - you're a liberal. You're motivation is partisan and you're towing the party line.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's perfectly valid to you and those who agree with you for partisan political reasons. To me, it's not valid - no matter which political party is espousing it. Possible outcomes? No --- that's not what was said, it's being stated as a fact, not a possible outcome. And what you deem "evidence" is highly suspect... "modeling outcomes" with numbers? You can make numbers and statistics prove anything. I'm sure you DO agree - you're a liberal. You're motivation is partisan and you're towing the party line.
    Given the context of this thread, I don't think you can credibly advance the idea you are not partisan. These discussions aren't supposed to be personal anyway.
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    Re: Harry Reid: But for me we'd be in a worldwide depression

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Given the context of this thread, I don't think you can credibly advance the idea you are not partisan. These discussions aren't supposed to be personal anyway.
    I'm not claiming to be non partisan. I'm claiming that a politician of any political persuasion making such a claim would be to me, invalid.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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