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    Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    So much for the freedom of the press... this is outrageous!!!

    Tony Hopfinger, the founder and editor of online news site the Alaska Dispatch, was handcuffed and detained by Joe Miller's private security detail at a town hall yesterday at a public school in Anchorage, after he repeatedly tried to question and videotape the Republican nominee for Senate.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So much for the freedom of the press... this is outrageous!!!



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    how can a private security detail do this?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    What's outrageous about it?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What's outrageous about it?
    being detained by NON-police officers? having your right to due process stepped on?

    Hopfinger was held in a hallway of the school until Anchorage police arrived. They did not charge him, but said they would forward the case to the district attorney's office.
    Apparently, the police didn't think he had actually broken any laws, or they would have arrested him when they arrived.

    I'd sue.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What's outrageous about it?
    they are not police, and have no right to detain him.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    being detained by NON-police officers? having your right to due process stepped on?
    I didn't see anyone's due process being stepped on. I saw private security secure a potential threat and move that person.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Apparently, the police didn't think he had actually broken any laws, or they would have arrested him when they arrived.

    I'd sue.
    So maybe he sues. Big deal. And security isn't there to arrest anyone - they are there to control a situation or percieved threat and negate that threat. Again, I saw no problem with any video shot.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I didn't see anyone's due process being stepped on. I saw private security secure a potential threat and move that person.
    So maybe he sues. Big deal. And security isn't there to arrest anyone - they are there to control a situation or percieved threat and negate that threat. Again, I saw no problem with any video shot.
    When you hold someone against their will it's a felony.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When you hold someone against their will it's a felony.
    Then why weren't the security members arrested?

    Wait --- let me get my hip waders on... okay go ahead now and answer.


    Edit: oh and Alaska law citation needed please...
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    how can a private security detail do this?
    It depends on the state, here in NY a bouncer and a security guard cannot legally touch you and only detain you. Only bodyguards and police can legally touch you.
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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So much for the freedom of the press... this is outrageous!!!


    Doesn't really sound that "outrageous" when you read the whole article.

    William Fulton heads up DropZone Security, the firm hired by Miller for the event, and said in a statement that Hopfinger "repeatedly pushed a camera into the face of Mr. Miller. He continued to aggressively pursue him. I told the reporter several times that he needed to stop and that he was trespassing, he ignored me. He then proceeded to stalk Mr. Miller and even shoved an individual into a locker. Based upon this trespass and his assault, we detained him and escorted him from the premises."

    Fulton also said he didn't realize Hopfinger was a reporter until he said so. Fulton says he told Hopfinger: "Sir, that doesn't matter: you've been asked to leave, this is a private event."
    Hopfinger was held in a hallway of the school until Anchorage police arrived. They did not charge him, but said they would forward the case to the district attorney's office.



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