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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

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    And how is that relevant?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    So what he may have been disruptive and disrespectful after all he is a liberal and they are by nature jerks.

    This is a nothing story for and by liberal idiots who asr out to cause trouble because they can't get press with their brilliance because it's none existent.

    Now if they had kicked his sorry ass and put him in a coma that would be a story but only if if he died later.

    Wow, "I WAS CHANNELING A LIBERAL THERE FOR A SECOND HOW DID I DO?"

    Seriously freedom of the press comes with restrictions and there are lines you don't cross.

    I have help press credentials for many years and they are not a free pass to be an idiot ever.

    We have no idea what really took place and this story is just a story and means or proves nothing.
    Where is the proof the reporter is a liberal? The story may indeed mean nothing, however it certainly doesn't help his campaign.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    The reporter in question is going to be on MSNBC tomorrow.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No other video - and since the cops didn't arrest anyone, there probably wasn't a police report either. No police report - no reason to assume the private security is lying any more than the guy in handcuffs is lying. I give the beneift of the doubt to the security guys - they're just doing their job for a paycheck. One could say the same about the reporter though, it seemed he was a little too over zealous and according to the article didn't take no for an answer. What was his motivation ? Why didn't he take the hint ?

    But there's nothing outrageous here at all... this thread was a dud from the start.
    I agree this is not 'outrageous'. I also agree it's pretty much he said/she said. However, I do not agree with private citizens detaining (in handcuffs, mind you), another private citizen. I find that unacceptable, regardless of the liberal/conservative/moderate/what-freaking-ever leaning of the people involve.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Security guards are not law enforcement. They do not have the authority to handcuff and detain you. Doing so is false imprisonment, which is a felony.

    They had the right to stop him from entering, or eject him if he refused to leave. (they leased the building which made it a private event) However, they can't handcuff and arrest you except under very specific circumstances, usually involving direct witness of a felony, and even that varies by state.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Security guards are not law enforcement. They do not have the authority to handcuff and detain you. Doing so is false imprisonment, which is a felony.

    They had the right to stop him from entering, or eject him if he refused to leave. (they leased the building which made it a private event) However, they can't handcuff and arrest you except under very specific circumstances, usually involving direct witness of a felony, and even that varies by state.
    Like anything else in the US, security officers and their powers vary by state. In Missouri, it's determined by county. In St. Louis city and county, security officers have the same authority as police officers when they are working and on post. Security officers can arrest a person and put them in handcuffs until the police arrive. They have to follow the same procedures and policies that the police do. I'd be careful before making vague and false statements like the one you did.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    no means no!

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Between this event and other teabagger stories, it seems to me, that they're cowards when it comes to the press.

    Even if they feel that Fox News is the only news that's friendly to them, the truth is, that news isn't supposed to be friendly to them anyway.

    The truth is, they don't trust that the main stream PUBLIC will agree with their rhetoric, so theu aim it towards those who are already predisposed to it.

    Cowards and losers that know deep down inside that they don't have the knowledge or skills to make their case.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then why weren't the security members arrested?
    Who says they won't be arrested? The reporter has every right to take these thugs to court and the judge will deside what will be done next.
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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Where is the proof the reporter is a liberal? The story may indeed mean nothing, however it certainly doesn't help his campaign.
    Joe Miller is a Republican and most people in the media by a wide margin are liberals and they have become emboldened in recent years thinking it's okay to be confrontational rather than civil or Tony Hopfinger would not have invited to leave in the first place.

    He must have crossed the live of civility.

    Believe me you can ask tough questions and not be a ass in the process, you just have to be tactful and not make demands, or you will be asked to go.

    I got into it with Then Governor Napolitano at a Luncheon a few years ago and managed to piss her off because she didn't like hearing that NAFTA had cost Arizona jobs, and she tried to say it was a good thing, and hearing the facts and numbers in a room filled with several hundred people was not fun for her, but I was civil and wasn't ask to leave.

    I knew she was pissed because the asked the Cities Mayor who I was, the Mayor told me later. She was a friend of mine and I was on the Council and a rare Conservative Reporter at the time.
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