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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Doesn't really sound that "outrageous" when you read the whole article.

    William Fulton heads up DropZone Security, the firm hired by Miller for the event, and said in a statement that Hopfinger "repeatedly pushed a camera into the face of Mr. Miller. He continued to aggressively pursue him. I told the reporter several times that he needed to stop and that he was trespassing, he ignored me. He then proceeded to stalk Mr. Miller and even shoved an individual into a locker. Based upon this trespass and his assault, we detained him and escorted him from the premises."

    Fulton also said he didn't realize Hopfinger was a reporter until he said so. Fulton says he told Hopfinger: "Sir, that doesn't matter: you've been asked to leave, this is a private event."
    Hopfinger was held in a hallway of the school until Anchorage police arrived. They did not charge him, but said they would forward the case to the district attorney's office.

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    Yeah - that just so... so... Outrageous.




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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    So the thugs' boss defends them with his prejudicial characterisation of the reporter's behaviour. "Pushed a camera in the face" "aggressively pursued" "stalked" In his opinion.
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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    The video in the OP only shows a small portion of the incident of the detention. It does not show anything that led up to it. We are left with a he said/she said.

    That being the case, I opt to side with the detained party until evidence is provided that the detained party acted in a manner that justified his detention by civilian security personnel.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So the thugs' boss defends them with his prejudicial characterisation of the reporter's behaviour. "Pushed a camera in the face" "aggressively pursued" "stalked" In his opinion.
    They told him to stop, he wouldn't. Dunno what else to tell ya.

    I can see being outraged if they beat the **** out of the guy, or they even roughed him up. Or, if they broke his camera or something else --- but everything was nice an calm, he was walked out and removed from the area. Sounds like a typical political gathering to me.
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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They told him to stop, he wouldn't. Dunno what else to tell ya.

    I can see being outraged if they beat the **** out of the guy, or they even roughed him up. Or, if they broke his camera or something else --- but everything was nice an calm, he was walked out and removed from the area. Sounds like a typical political gathering to me.
    Is there any video showing this part of the exchange? Anyone other than the guards or the candidate to corroborate their end of the story? Also, one post in this thread mentions that the guards to ld the blogger this was a private event, and others call it a public event.

    Also, I have a problem with civilians handcuffing someone and detaining them.

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Doesn't really sound that "outrageous" when you read the whole article.

    William Fulton heads up DropZone Security, the firm hired by Miller for the event, and said in a statement that Hopfinger "repeatedly pushed a camera into the face of Mr. Miller. He continued to aggressively pursue him. I told the reporter several times that he needed to stop and that he was trespassing, he ignored me. He then proceeded to stalk Mr. Miller and even shoved an individual into a locker. Based upon this trespass and his assault, we detained him and escorted him from the premises."

    Fulton also said he didn't realize Hopfinger was a reporter until he said so. Fulton says he told Hopfinger: "Sir, that doesn't matter: you've been asked to leave, this is a private event."
    Hopfinger was held in a hallway of the school until Anchorage police arrived. They did not charge him, but said they would forward the case to the district attorney's office.



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    The event was held at a public school and according to the reporter there was no indication that it was a private event. My guess Sen. Lisa Murkowski is loving this.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The event was held at a public school and according to the reporter there was no indication that it was a private event.
    Why should it matter that it was a public school?

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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Why should it matter that it was a public school?
    It's public property maintained by taxes.


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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    So what he may have been disruptive and disrespectful after all he is a liberal and they are by nature jerks.

    This is a nothing story for and by liberal idiots who asr out to cause trouble because they can't get press with their brilliance because it's none existent.

    Now if they had kicked his sorry ass and put him in a coma that would be a story but only if if he died later.

    Wow, "I WAS CHANNELING A LIBERAL THERE FOR A SECOND HOW DID I DO?"

    Seriously freedom of the press comes with restrictions and there are lines you don't cross.

    I have help press credentials for many years and they are not a free pass to be an idiot ever.

    We have no idea what really took place and this story is just a story and means or proves nothing.
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    Re: Joe Miller Security Guards Detain Journalist At Town Hall Meeting (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Is there any video showing this part of the exchange? Anyone other than the guards or the candidate to corroborate their end of the story? Also, one post in this thread mentions that the guards to ld the blogger this was a private event, and others call it a public event.

    Also, I have a problem with civilians handcuffing someone and detaining them.
    No other video - and since the cops didn't arrest anyone, there probably wasn't a police report either. No police report - no reason to assume the private security is lying any more than the guy in handcuffs is lying. I give the beneift of the doubt to the security guys - they're just doing their job for a paycheck. One could say the same about the reporter though, it seemed he was a little too over zealous and according to the article didn't take no for an answer. What was his motivation ? Why didn't he take the hint ?

    But there's nothing outrageous here at all... this thread was a dud from the start.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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