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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Cancer 'is purely man-made' say scientists after finding almost no trace of disease in Egyptian mummies | Mail Online

    Cancer is a man-made disease fuelled by the excesses of modern life, a study of ancient remains has found.
    Tumours were rare until recent times when pollution and poor diet became issues, the review of mummies, fossils and classical literature found.
    A greater understanding of its origins could lead to treatments for the disease, which claims more than 150,000 lives a year in the UK.
    Not that rare.
    There is a lot of historical evidence of breast cancer, for instance, before the industrial revolution.
    It's written about in classical literature and in medical writings from five or six centuries ago.
    It was certainly well-known and well-documented by the 1500s; Robert Dudley (1st Earl of Leicester)'s wife Amy Dudley had it- history indicates that she was dying, after a long illness, of a "chancor in her breast", at the time she either fell or was pushed down stairs to her death.
    Dudley was suspected of being the lover of Queen Elizabeth I, and he was a prime suspect in the death of his terminally ill wife.

    My reading and research on the history of breast cancer indicates that in fact the ancient egyptians were the first to identify it and record its existence... approximately 3600 years ago.
    Apparently, they wrote that there was no cure for it, but that cauterization with hot instruments was the treatment of choice.
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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Cancer is very complex, but it isn't man-made. It's a disease of age, environment, and lifestyle.
    You really don't believe man has an effect on the environment?

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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Cancer has always existed, but the rates seen today are far, far higher than any other time in all of human history. It has little to do with human lifespan, by the way. I don't know why IT got thanked by so many people for that, the statement is not correct. Age in of itself does not typically pre-dispose you to cancer.

    The modern lifestyle and environment are definitely to blame.
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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Cancer has always existed, but the rates seen today are far, far higher than any other time in all of human history. It has little to do with human lifespan, by the way. I don't know why IT got thanked by so many people for that, the statement is not correct. Age in of itself does not typically pre-dispose you to cancer.

    The modern lifestyle and environment are definitely to blame.
    The older you are, the longer you have been exposed to carcinogens and the longer the chance for cells to become cancerous.
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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    If it's a disease that has to do with age, what about toddlers that get cancer?


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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The older you are, the longer you have been exposed to carcinogens and the longer the chance for cells to become cancerous.
    The people in the record books for the oldest ages mostly died of cardiovascular related issues. Hearts get tired eventually.

    It's still incorrect to say that age = cancer, when it is carcinogens that = cancer. Fewer carcinogens, lesser exposure. The distinction is subtle but important.

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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    If it's a disease that has to do with age, what about toddlers that get cancer?


    Yes, that really makes a lot of sense, because perhaps 1 in 500,000 toddlers get cancer, while one in three elderly people get it.
    Honestly, how old are you?

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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    If it's a disease that has to do with age, what about toddlers that get cancer?
    It isn't about age. I never claimed it was.
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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It isn't about age. I never claimed it was.
    You said that the longer you live, the higher your chance of getting cancer... but as you just stated in the previous post, it is about build up of carcinogens. So it is the carcinogens that create the cancerous situation, not your age in of itself.

    The problem continues to be modern lifestyle and contamination factors.

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    Re: Cancer is "purely man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The people in the record books for the oldest ages mostly died of cardiovascular related issues. Hearts get tired eventually.

    It's still incorrect to say that age = cancer, when it is carcinogens that = cancer. Fewer carcinogens, lesser exposure. The distinction is subtle but important.
    I didn't say that age=cancer. It's not so simple to say that carcinogens always cause cancer either. A genetic predispostion may play a part in why children get cancer. Carcinogens increase the risk for cancer. Some smokers get lung cancer, some don't. Lance Armstrong didn't smoke yet he still got it. But as I initially stated, if you live long enough (something else doesn't kill you), then you will most likely get cancer. Look up the instances of cancer per capita for each age demographic.
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