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    Well aware lol!

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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    you have to see how ignorant o'donnel is about this Constitution she purports to defend:
    YouTube - Christine O'Donnell ignorant of the Constitution (go to 2:37)
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    Re: O'Donnel, Coons live debate thread

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have to see how ignorant o'donnel is about this Constitution she purports to defend:
    YouTube - Christine O'Donnell ignorant of the Constitution (go to 2:37)
    That really isn't that uncommon aomng the tea party membership as best I can tell. It has ebcome a gereat catch phrase for them, but few actually seme to understand what is in the Consititution.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: O'Donnel, Coons live debate thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That really isn't that uncommon aomng the tea party membership as best I can tell. It has ebcome a gereat catch phrase for them, but few actually seme to understand what is in the Consititution.



    any evidence of this or are you just smearing us as usual.


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    Re: O'Donnel, Coons live debate thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    any evidence of this or are you just smearing us as usual.


    I'd put my understanding up to yours any day hero.
    Just listen to them. You have O'Donell up above.

    However:

    It is, of course, hard to say anything definitive about the Tea Party movement, a loose confederation of groups with no central leadership. But if there is a central theme to its understanding of the Constitution, it is that the nation’s founders knew what they were doing and that their work must be protected. “I think it’s some loose, ill-informed version of originalism, but it’s plausible,” said Professor Kramer, the author of “The People Themselves: Popular Constitutionalism and Judicial Review.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/we.../14liptak.html

    But the reality is that Tea Partiers engage with the Constitution in such a selective manner, and for such nakedly political purposes, that they’re clearly relying on it more as an instrument of self-affirmation and cultural division than a source of policy inspiration.

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    In recent months, Tea Party candidates have behaved in ways that belie their public commitment to combating progressivism. They’ve backed measures that blatantly contradict their originalist mission. And they’ve frequently misunderstood or misrepresented the Constitution itself. In May, for example, Paul told a Russian television station that America “should stop” automatically granting citizenship to the native-born children of illegal immigrants. Turns out his suggestion would be unconstitutional, at least according to the 14th Amendment (1868) and a pair of subsequent Supreme Court decisions. A few weeks later, Paul said he’d like to prevent federal contractors from lobbying Congress—a likely violation of their First Amendment right to redress. In July, Alaska’s Miller told ABC News that unemployment benefits are not “constitutionally authorized.” Reports later revealed that his wife claimed unemployment in 2002.

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    The Tea Partiers are right to revere the Constitution. It’s a remarkable, even miraculous document. But there are many Constitutions: the Constitution of 1789, of 1864, of 1925, of 1936, of 1970, of today. Where O’Donnell & Co. go wrong is in insisting that their idealized document is the country’s one true Constitution, and that dissenters are somehow un-American. By putting the Constitution front and center, the Tea Party has reinvigorated a long-simmering argument over who we are and who we want to be. That’s great. But to truly honor the Founders’ spirit, they have to make room for actual debate. As usual, Thomas Jefferson put it best. In a letter to a friend in 1816, he mocked “men [who] look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched”; “who ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment.” “Let us follow no such examples, nor weakly believe that one generation is not as capable as another of taking care of itself, and of ordering its own affairs,” he concluded. “Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before.” Amen.

    How Tea Partiers Get the Constitution Wrong - Newsweek

    I'm sure you can do your own search for more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: O'Donnel, Coons live debate thread

    We have to get BACK to the CONSTITUTION-BASED GOVERNMENT!*

    *Except for the 14th, 16th, and 17th amendments. I don't like those so we should repeal them. Also we need to add one that says "No Homos"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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