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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post



    You are going to need a bigger bucket. Seriously.


    I could beat it into your head with a clue by four, but at this point, I don't think it would help.
    oh, it's a fail to ask why tea party backed candidates can't come up with anything but slogans?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    oh, they have an identity. it's too bad the intelligent people within that movement can't see that.



    like this sort of snotty comment, perhaps you can try to intellectually attempt to disagree with the few specific tenets behind the tea party movement instead of embarrassing yourself by being a close minded partisan hack.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    oh, it's a fail to ask why tea party backed candidates can't come up with anything but slogans?



    zyph hits the nail on the head, I won't waste my time repeating to someone who chooses to be ignorant.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Since the Tea Party is a movement not a party that makes them more malleable to current circumstance.
    Absolutely.

    When the wind blows in a certain direction they can adjust there sails. There are both advantages and disadvantges to this.
    Agree here too

    However since the Tea Party is also about identity politics this limits their scope and abilities to a narrow field of populism.
    Umm, care to actually explain how the Tea Party is about identity politics or just want to throw things out there with no backing and have people assume its true?

    And yeah, I think their goals are rather narrow at this point and are very much based on the current set of circumstances. Should they be successful in the short term, and by short term I mean the next decade, and successfully steer the Republican Party into being a legitimate conservatively principled party that seeks actively to fulfill its ideological principles and seeks to convince through facts why their way is the better way as a means to gain moderates rather than simply trying to water itself down then I believe that the Tea Party will essentially kill itself off as a movement. That said, that's not a bad thing. I believe when movements attempt to continue on after the point in which they affect real and legitimate change that is when you begin to get twisting and distorting of movements into something wholely different and generally more dishonest and questioanble.

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    ok. you got me. it's not a party. so what? which candidates backed by the tea party have a plan to fix anything? thanks.
    It's been answered several times. I'll try a different tact.
    They're plan is to do the opposite of what Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the liberals have been doing the last 2 yrs.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well, first it matters because words actually mean things. You and others don't get to make stupid and incorrect statements and then get pissy and defensive when your ignorant assertions are actually shown to be just that.

    Second, it matters because people are making the ignorant assertion that the TEA party and the Republican Party are exactly alike and thus trying to suggest that the Tea Party is simply a republican snowjob in hopes of slandering both groupings based on nothing but false and incorrect statements. Which of course is why you're getting so defensive and angry over the fact that your ignorant assertions are being pointed out because it makes your attacks less useful.

    Third, it matters because its hardly new and there should be some concistancy. There were nutjobs in the Anti-War movement as well that then went on to run as Democrats or Green Party or other left leaning parties as well. That didn't mean the Anti-War movement WAS the democratic party nor that the Anti-War Movement was exactly like the Democratic Party simply because they managed to get Anti-War Movement candidates into primaries or elections.

    Do I think all the individuals the Tea Party supports are great candidates? Absolutely not. Here's the thing though, often times the other candidates they were going against weren't great either. Do I like McDonnel? Not really. But I don't like Castle either. However that doesn't acknowledge individuals like Rand Paul and others that I actually do think are good candidates that they're supporting as well. However the media tends to focus on the "nut jobs" rather than the low key "normal" candidates Tea Party members support because it makes for more sensationalism, more ratings, and helps fit the bull**** persona that they and liberals are trying deseperately to paint on the Tea party in hopes of continuing to belittle and degrade it through false information, misrepresentations, and gross over generalizations. You know, all the things you've been doing repeatedly throughout this and other threads.
    hold on there....i never said the tea party was just the republican party. and i'm not defensive, i've left that to you people. the fact that it matters to you whether it's a party or not seems weird to me. what's the difference?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    hold on there....i never said the tea party was just the republican party. and i'm not defensive, i've left that to you people. the fact that it matters to you whether it's a party or not seems weird to me. what's the difference?


    You really want us to believe that about you? Seriously?


    If it's a party, it needs a platform. canidates, etc. its no longer a movement of folks like the 30+ here who identify with the movement, that our "parties", representatives, etc are spending us into disaster.....

    You know this, you choose to ignore it for something to attack.


    Tell me are you for more government spending? less accountable representatives and higher taxes?


    If you aren't why are you so hostile to us?
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    If she has been pushed aside, at least there's some hope for the people of this country. God she's a walking embarrassment to my gender. Her and O'Donnell both. *shudder*

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    oh, it's a fail to ask why tea party backed candidates can't come up with anything but slogans?
    The dems can't even come up with slogans this election. What is they are are running on again? Or I guess I should say, what are they running from? LOL
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The dems can't even come up with slogans this election. What is they are are running on again? Or I guess I should say, what are they running from? LOL
    very poor deflection. can't you answer?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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