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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    again, what's the plan? it's fine to be against something, but what are you gonna do to FIX it? why can't your candidates articulate that?






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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    then why did you call it a tea party? silly, rev, just silly.
    You do realize that there are other ways to use the word "party" other than political party yes?

    "OMG! Those kids down the street are having a House Party"
    "What?! You mean they're trying to push political candidates that are sarcastic vicoden addicted brilliant doctors?!"

    or how about this

    "What?! You lobbyists want me to help you push your bill? I just won't be a party to this"
    "What are you talking about? We don't want you to become a political organization aimed at trying to get someone within their official grouping elected, we just want you to take a bribe in return for favors".

    or beyond that perhaps

    "Yes, I'd like a reservation for a party of six please"
    "What's that? You're trying to reserve a table for a political organization aimed at nominating and electing individuals in an organized national way that are for the number 6"

    I know its hard to fathom for some of you, but "party" does not just have one meaning.

    The "T(axed) E(nough) A(already) Parties" initially were anti-tax and government spending protests that were using the acronym of TEA with the group denotion of "party" to give historical allusion to the founders in an effort to give imagery that suggested a simpiler time closer to that of the founding of the constitution which is what in theory the tea party movement was pushing for. As the movement grew the name simply stuck.

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I do so love when people continue to be ignorant, and by that I mean completely and fully in the literal sense of the word of being devoid of having factual information concerning a subject, and yet continue to spout off. Especially when a link is provided to a website that has not been "created on the fly" but has been hosted for some time, and prior to it hosting was used as a place for months where individuals could vote on which issues were most important to them. I also enjoy that not a single solitary person who is truly ignorant of what the Tea Party is and continue to act like it is an official POLITICAL PARTY have yet to show me in any way shape or form any official documentation showing that it is in any way a recognized national Political Party.

    Perhaps people would actually be more open to questioning of their political MOVEMENT if people would actually choose to actively educate themselves instead of repeated and regurgitating ignorant statements over and over again even when facts and evidence is clearly and plainly laid out before them.
    whatever, call it a movement. why does that matter? the fact is, this movement has produced candidates. and those candidates don't seem to have a plan to change anything. do you seriously think sharonn angle is a good candidate? do you seriously think michelle bachmann is a good candidate? maybe if the face of your movement wasn't right wing whackjobs with ridiculous slogans like "mama grizzlies" people wouldn't be so skeptical.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    then why did you call it a tea party? silly, rev, just silly.
    If it ever turns into a party, it will be the Tea Party Party....silly lib. :-)
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You do realize that there are other ways to use the word "party" other than political party yes?

    "OMG! Those kids down the street are having a House Party"
    "What?! You mean they're trying to push political candidates that are sarcastic vicoden addicted brilliant doctors?!"

    or how about this

    "What?! You lobbyists want me to help you push your bill? I just won't be a party to this"
    "What are you talking about? We don't want you to become a political organization aimed at trying to get someone within their official grouping elected, we just want you to take a bribe in return for favors".

    or beyond that perhaps

    "Yes, I'd like a reservation for a party of six please"
    "What's that? You're trying to reserve a table for a political organization aimed at nominating and electing individuals in an organized national way that are for the number 6"

    I know its hard to fathom for some of you, but "party" does not just have one meaning.

    The "T(axed) E(nough) A(already) Parties" initially were anti-tax and government spending protests that were using the acronym of TEA with the group denotion of "party" to give historical allusion to the founders in an effort to give imagery that suggested a simpiler time closer to that of the founding of the constitution which is what in theory the tea party movement was pushing for. As the movement grew the name simply stuck.
    okay, it's not a party, it's a movement that backs candidates who suck. why does that matter?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I do so love when people continue to be ignorant, and by that I mean completely and fully in the literal sense of the word of being devoid of having factual information concerning a subject, and yet continue to spout off. Especially when a link is provided to a website that has not been "created on the fly" but has been hosted for some time, and prior to it hosting was used as a place for months where individuals could vote on which issues were most important to them. I also enjoy that not a single solitary person who is truly ignorant of what the Tea Party is and continue to act like it is an official POLITICAL PARTY have yet to show me in any way shape or form any official documentation showing that it is in any way a recognized national Political Party.

    Perhaps people would actually be more open to questioning of their political MOVEMENT if people would actually choose to actively educate themselves instead of repeated and regurgitating ignorant statements over and over again even when facts and evidence is clearly and plainly laid out before them.
    Since the Tea Party is a movement not a party that makes them more malleable to current circumstance. When the wind blows in a certain direction they can adjust there sails. There are both advantages and disadvantges to this. However since the Tea Party is also about identity politics this limits their scope and abilities to a narrow field of populism.

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If it ever turns into a party, it will be the Tea Party Party....silly lib. :-)
    ok. you got me. it's not a party. so what? which candidates backed by the tea party have a plan to fix anything? thanks.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Since the Tea Party is a movement not a party that makes them more malleable to current circumstance. When the wind blows in a certain direction they can adjust there sails. There are both advantages and disadvantges to this. However since the Tea Party is also about identity politics this limits their scope and abilities to a narrow field of populism.
    oh, they have an identity. it's too bad the intelligent people within that movement can't see that.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And what authority do you base this on?

    I base it on the idiocy you disguise as rational posts on the tea party. I base it on your seemingly obsessive need to define the tea party as something it's not in order to unintelligently smear folks you disagree with.




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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    whatever, call it a movement. why does that matter? the fact is, this movement has produced candidates. and those candidates don't seem to have a plan to change anything. do you seriously think sharonn angle is a good candidate? do you seriously think michelle bachmann is a good candidate? maybe if the face of your movement wasn't right wing whackjobs with ridiculous slogans like "mama grizzlies" people wouldn't be so skeptical.
    Well, first it matters because words actually mean things. You and others don't get to make stupid and incorrect statements and then get pissy and defensive when your ignorant assertions are actually shown to be just that.

    Second, it matters because people are making the ignorant assertion that the TEA party and the Republican Party are exactly alike and thus trying to suggest that the Tea Party is simply a republican snowjob in hopes of slandering both groupings based on nothing but false and incorrect statements. Which of course is why you're getting so defensive and angry over the fact that your ignorant assertions are being pointed out because it makes your attacks less useful.

    Third, it matters because its hardly new and there should be some concistancy. There were nutjobs in the Anti-War movement as well that then went on to run as Democrats or Green Party or other left leaning parties as well. That didn't mean the Anti-War movement WAS the democratic party nor that the Anti-War Movement was exactly like the Democratic Party simply because they managed to get Anti-War Movement candidates into primaries or elections.

    Do I think all the individuals the Tea Party supports are great candidates? Absolutely not. Here's the thing though, often times the other candidates they were going against weren't great either. Do I like McDonnel? Not really. But I don't like Castle either. However that doesn't acknowledge individuals like Rand Paul and others that I actually do think are good candidates that they're supporting as well. However the media tends to focus on the "nut jobs" rather than the low key "normal" candidates Tea Party members support because it makes for more sensationalism, more ratings, and helps fit the bull**** persona that they and liberals are trying deseperately to paint on the Tea party in hopes of continuing to belittle and degrade it through false information, misrepresentations, and gross over generalizations. You know, all the things you've been doing repeatedly throughout this and other threads.

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