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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.



    the new yorker?

    the New york times?


    you thought these agenda driven rags are an unbiased source?



    you avoided the second part of my response. why?
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Soros started Moveon.

    No he did not.

    One night during the run-up to Clinton's impeachment, Boyd and Blades were at a Chinese restaurant for dinner. They were griping about politics; this being Berkeley, they overheard a nearby couple having the same conversation. A few days later, they emailed a petition to a hundred or so friends calling on Congress to censure Clinton and "move on." Within a week, it had 100,000 signers. Within a month, more than 300,000.

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No he did not.

    One night during the run-up to Clinton's impeachment, Boyd and Blades were at a Chinese restaurant for dinner. They were griping about politics; this being Berkeley, they overheard a nearby couple having the same conversation. A few days later, they emailed a petition to a hundred or so friends calling on Congress to censure Clinton and "move on." Within a week, it had 100,000 signers. Within a month, more than 300,000.

    Wired 12.09: Weapons of Mass Mobilization


    You expect me to take an article on moveon.org that doesn't mention soros at all, as serious?
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You expect me to take an article on moveon.org that doesn't mention soros at all, as serious?

    Fine, then prove that "Soros started Moveon"

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fine, then prove that "Soros started Moveon"


    MoveOn moves up - Salon.com



    he bankrolled it, unlike the tea party, moveon would not be anywhere it was without soros, he in effect started it.



    comparing moveon to the Teaparty is asinine anyway.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Ya'll are just jealous because YOUR sugar daddy decided to sit out this election. :-)
    The tea party now has it's own George Soros (hopefully). I don't think they have as much money as God though.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Ya'll are just jealous because YOUR sugar daddy decided to sit out this election. :-)
    The tea party now has it's own George Soros (hopefully). I don't think they have as much money as God though.



    no you watch, these hacks will start claiming that because these guys are funding americans for prosperity now, that the tea party was never a grass roots movement.
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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Any plan is better than the liberal plan.
    thank you for so eloquently making my point.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    So there's no organization and no real leadership...
    There are groups of organizations that are loosely tied together than within those organizations have more localized groups, each with their own leaderes but no over all national leadership. Yes. That's why its a MOVEMENT not a political party.

    So...you cant really tell whose a teabagger and who isnt?
    No more than you can tell whose an anti-war pussy or not.

    Isn't calling people names fun?

    That's...extremely vague
    No, its a single bullet point because ... I know this may be shocking ... I'm following the rules of the forum and not cutting and pasting the entire thing thus violating our Fair Use rules. Since I'm actually trying to adhere to Debate Politics rules I simply posted the bullet point for each of the views and left out the actual statements concerning them. That is why I stated EXACTLY that in my post and gave a link to the full document. Perhaps you want to read it, or read my post, or read anything, but I'm sure you're just too busy wanting to spit out insults.

    Slightly more specific, getting better.
    As above.

    Ok, how do you want to achieve that?
    As above.

    Again with the vague.
    As above.

    Yet AGAIN with the vague.
    As above. You really don't bother to actually READ what people right do you? Its just a chant for you to run off and rant?

    I'm sensing a trend here.
    So am I. As above.

    Replace it with what?
    Guess what I'm going to say here

    This doesnt even make sense.
    I'm sure it doesn't to someone that doesn't bother to read anything that's written.

    Vague again.
    As above.

    Which ones?
    As above.

    No, it's a frickin' grocery list. This isnt a platform, it's a list of vague ideas that are neither formed nor apparently very well thought out.
    No, its bullet points from what I stated is "essentially" the only thing one could attempt to claim as a psuedo-platform for the POLITICAL MOVEMENT of the Tea Party.

    Here, this is a political platform
    Socialist Party USA

    Agree with it or not, it goes into detail, spells out specific steps and goals to take to achieve an end goal. You have a rough draft, I write grocery lists more complicated than that. I love the enthusiasm, but lets see some specific plans
    That's not a political platform, that's just a link! You're too Vague!

    See, its annoying when people ignorantly respond rather than reading and becoming informed first.

    Yes. Congratulations, you found a true "platform". Note also you found an actual POLITICAL PARTY! Notice that I've said...and I know that's difficult because it'd require you to have read through the various posts you're responding to...that the Tea Party, unlike the Socialist Party, is not a POLITICAL PARTY but a group that is a political movement. While a Political Party has to have an official and stated platform, a movement generally does not. They tend to have a general philosophy and ideological view point. As I stated, the Contract from America is the closest thing to that you can find for the Tea Party and the closest thing to an idea and policy statement that is near universally held by the loose grouping known as the Tea Party.

    Theory is nice but it isnt a plan.
    Correct, its why its in the realm of a political movement, not a political party. Its a generalized view and set of principles with generalized ideas regarding it that provide a baseline for politicians to see what it is that is important to those individuals that represent the movement and what they should use as a foundation to build their legislation and actual plans from.

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    Re: Sarah Palin no longer the darling of her own Tea Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    no you watch, these hacks will start claiming that because these guys are funding americans for prosperity now, that the tea party was never a grass roots movement.

    We know the tea party is grass roots. So do they.
    Let them say it was all the Koch bros. Anyone with a brain knows better, and their lies won't change that.
    Besides, they're the ones who believe the end justifies the means, so I don't know why they would have a problem in the first place.
    The end for them is in Nov.
    Even Soros sees that.
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