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Obama: Republicans Counting On Blacks Staying Home

Of course it does and your analogy is ridiculous. A better and more relevant analogy would be a beggar coming up to you in the street, saying that he's only had one burger to eat all day and thus you should spare some change. Now on the surface that might not seem dishonest or untrue but what if he omitted that he's also had hot dogs, fries, soda etc. Does his statement seem all that honest? I don't think so. It might be a true statement but it's not a very honest one. Once again, the context of how something is said is important. Specially in politics.

My analogy was intentionally ridiculous to illustrate that your splitting of proverbial hairs was ridiculous. :2razz:
 
My analogy was intentionally ridiculous to illustrate that your splitting of proverbial hairs was ridiculous. :2razz:

Take any sentence and chop it up as you see fit and it can mean whatever you want it to mean.
 
Take any sentence and chop it up as you see fit and it can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Perhaps, then, it would be best if politicians just spoke bluntly and honestly, without ambiguity...




Wait, who am I kidding?
 
Perhaps, then, it would be best if politicians just spoke bluntly and honestly, without ambiguity...

But he did. He simply enumerated the voting block of Democrats. Blacks ie minorities, students, unions. It's a literary device. Quite common actually. I could swear I've heard people use it before.
 
What if, say mit romney had said "obama wants to keep whites home on election day"?


It's racial politics and it's disgusting.

What if it's true? Of course Obama would prefer that whites stay home on Election Day; they tend to be more conservative than average. It is even MORE true that Republicans want blacks to stay home on Election Day for precisely the same reason. That isn't race-baiting; it's not like he said that Republicans want them to stay home because they secretly want to bring back segregation. But it's silly to pretend that Republicans are hoping for high black turnout this November.

In any case, Obama didn't even refer to it in the context of making some point about race. He rattled off SEVERAL constituencies that typically vote Democrat. Nice job intentionally misinterpreting it though. ;)
 
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Isn't it true that Republicans prefer blacks to stay home on election day?

1. Blacks tend heavily Democrat.
2. Republicans don't want Democrats to receive votes.
3. It is not plausible black voters will reverse their loyalty to the Republicans.
4. Therefore Republicans prefer blacks to stay home on election day, as opposed to going out and voting for Democrats.

Note that people are criticizing Obama for making a comment which provokes certain whites, rather than criticizing him for lying.
 
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Sad truly sad. :shrug:


Had a rrepublican said something like this. There would be mtiple threads by you folks. :lol:
 
It is basically the same as if someone had said, "I hope southerners stay home", "I hope northerners stay home", "I hope the rich/poor stay home" etc. Certain demographics will vote a certain way and there is nothing wrong with recognizing that. Just because the demographic is identified by race doesn't mean much of anything really.
 
Democrats are hoping white, southern Christians stay home this election day. :shrug:

They'd be idiots to not hope that.
 
I think the fact that Obama mentioned blacks (race) brings up race bating. I think Obama and Democrats should be held accountable for their race baiting. Instead all they do is fingerprint and call Republicans racist (not all Dems, just the far left partisans). Obama is out of line to lie like this.
 
Democrats are hoping white, southern Christians stay home this election day. :shrug:

They'd be idiots to not hope that.

It's kind of odd isn't it? How quickly some Republicans are willing to say 'Democrats pander to minorities and the poor.' Then say with the same face that their party doesn't pander to the mostly white Southern evangelical demographic of the U.S. - So who do Republicans pander to? It's obviously not minorities. It's not the poor. It's not college students. So who do they pander to? Who do Republicans hope will stay home on election day?
 
I think the fact that Obama mentioned blacks (race) brings up race bating. I think Obama and Democrats should be held accountable for their race baiting. Instead all they do is fingerprint and call Republicans racist (not all Dems, just the far left partisans). Obama is out of line to lie like this.

... What did he lie about? Who do Republicans want staying home on electiond day?
 
... What did he lie about? Who do Republicans want staying home on electiond day?

Can you prove it? Let's look at the truth. Would Republicans benefit if blacks stayed home? Most likely because they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Does that mean they want them to stay home? Most likely not. Obama can't prove that Republicans want that, he can't point to a quote from Republican leadership that says the party wishes blacks would stay home. It's a false accusation of racism. Also, notice how Obama didn't mention white males or Christians. Does that indirectly mean he doesn't want people like me from voting? Obama spoke dishonestly and was being a race baiter.
 
Can you prove it?

YES. It's called AN ELECTION. You want the other party to stay home AND NOT VOTE SO THAT YOU CAN WIN.

Let's look at the truth. Would Republicans benefit if blacks stayed home?

Yes. If 10% of the population stays home, a 10% of which 95% of regularly votes Democrat, that's a LOSS for Democrat. This is simple math.

Does that mean they want them to stay home?

Yes. It's called an election. We've gone over this already.

Obama can't prove that Republicans want that,

If Republicans want to win, they are of COURSE hoping the main voting blocks of Democrats stay home. Seriously. Do you know anything about politics? How do you win an election? Gaining the most votes.

he can't point to a quote from Republican leadership that says the party wishes blacks would stay home.

Is this a joke? Seriously are you not focusing on anything that is being said?

It's a false accusation of racism.

No. It's not. Learn the definition of racism. Obama made a reference to the VOTING BLOCKS OF DEMOCRATS. That you feel like you're being accused of being racist is very telling.

Also, notice how Obama didn't mention white males or Christians.

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A DEMOCRATIC VOTING BLOCK. He did however mention Unions, college students. What? No white christian males there?

Does that indirectly mean he doesn't want people like me from voting? Obama spoke dishonestly and was being a race baiter.

Aren't you a Republican? So then yes. He wants you to stay home.

Listen digsbe, we can go back and forth all day about this but in the end you're being ridiculously dishonest. I assume that that the fact that you didn't address his reference to college students and union members means you don't think either of these groups have white Christian males in them. The reality is that a party will always want the main voting groups in another party to stay home. This is politics 101. Not racism. Get real please?
 
Can you prove it? Let's look at the truth. Would Republicans benefit if blacks stayed home? Most likely because they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Does that mean they want them to stay home? Most likely not. Obama can't prove that Republicans want that, he can't point to a quote from Republican leadership that says the party wishes blacks would stay home. It's a false accusation of racism. Also, notice how Obama didn't mention white males or Christians. Does that indirectly mean he doesn't want people like me from voting? Obama spoke dishonestly and was being a race baiter.

it's not racism at all, and it wasn't a bit dishonest. and of course obama didn't mention white males, they tend to voter republican, so why would republicans want them to stay home?

what exactly is your definition of racism?
 
Not racism.,..


race baiting and racial politics. one would be a fool not to get the underlying meaning of his statement, that republicans are a little "racist".... Classic race baiting. :shrug:
 
one would be a fool not to get the underlying meaning of his statement, that republicans are a little "racist"....

I must be a fool because I assumed the underlying meaning of his statement was that black people tend to vote democrat. Just like union folks and young people do. :shrug:
 
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Not racism.,..


race baiting and racial politics. one would be a fool not to get the underlying meaning of his statement, that republicans are a little "racist".... Classic race baiting. :shrug:

digsbe specifically cited racism. and feel free to read obama's statement any way you like, i don't believe it was race baiting. i believe his statement was completely up front, republicans want blacks to stay home this election, because they tend to vote dem. how is that race baiting? you guys are taking this way too far. do YOU want everyone who votes dem to come out?
 
digsbe specifically cited racism. and feel free to read obama's statement any way you like, i don't believe it was race baiting. i believe his statement was completely up front, republicans want blacks to stay home this election, because they tend to vote dem. how is that race baiting? you guys are taking this way too far. do YOU want everyone who votes dem to come out?


Of course you don't only right wingers can be race baiters.. :roll:
 
YES. It's called AN ELECTION. You want the other party to stay home AND NOT VOTE SO THAT YOU CAN WIN.
That proves nothing. Your statement doesn't prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home on election day. You may suspect them of it, but you can't prove it. Neither should anyone make accusations like that without proof.
Yes. If 10% of the population stays home, a 10% of which 95% of regularly votes Democrat, that's a LOSS for Democrat. This is simple math.
And? Yes this is how elections can be decided, but that doesn't mean Republicans want blacks to stay home and not vote. Obama is race baiting and trying to anger blacks by pushing the lie that Republicans are racist/
Yes. It's called an election. We've gone over this already.
Yes, but you have failed to prove Obama correct and me false. As I said earlier. It may benefit Republicans if blacks stayed home, but that doesn't mean they necessarily want that. You can't prove that the Republican party as a whole stated that they want blacks to not vote.
If Republicans want to win, they are of COURSE hoping the main voting blocks of Democrats stay home. Seriously. Do you know anything about politics? How do you win an election? Gaining the most votes.
But you can't prove that.... It may benefit them but you can't prove that they have said "Blacks should stay home." Obama made a statement as a truth and said Republicans don't want blacks (among other Democrat voting groups) to stay home. He based that not of proof or evidence, but based on the notion that Republicans would benefit. Equally then, Democrats must want white males and Christians to stay home. It's true because it would benefit the Democrats...:doh
Is this a joke? Seriously are you not focusing on anything that is being said?
Are you not focusing on what is being said? I said Republicans would benefit from blacks staying home as around 90% of them vote Democrat. What I said is that Obama can't prove it, and his statement is classic race baiting.
No. It's not. Learn the definition of racism. Obama made a reference to the VOTING BLOCKS OF DEMOCRATS. That you feel like you're being accused of being racist is very telling.
Obama is being a race baiter. He is trying to enforce the lie that Republicans are racists and hate black people and don't want them to vote. He's trying to fire up blacks to vote by telling them his opposition doesn't want them to vote at all, thus using anger to motivate them.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A DEMOCRATIC VOTING BLOCK. He did however mention Unions, college students. What? No white christian males there?
He was saying to a crowed that Republicans do not want groups that are a traditional voting block for Democrats to vote. He is trying to rally them to vote through feeding anger and race baiting ;) He posts an unprovable statement as true simply based on the fact that Republicans may want to have a disproportional election because it would benefit them. What about those who want to have a fair race for Democracy's sake and have everyone vote regardless of traditional blocks?
Aren't you a Republican? So then yes. He wants you to stay home.

Listen digsbe, we can go back and forth all day about this but in the end you're being ridiculously dishonest. I assume that that the fact that you didn't address his reference to college students and union members means you don't think either of these groups have white Christian males in them. The reality is that a party will always want the main voting groups in another party to stay home. This is politics 101. Not racism. Get real please?
No, I am an independent and I was actually considering voting Democrat in the next election.

We can go back and forth, but you are the one being dishonest. All I stated is that Obama is baiting people to vote through anger. I asked you to prove that Republicans have stated that they want blacks, unions, and traditional Democrat voting blocks to stay home. Obama has stated a lie based on feeling and not proof. Obama is being dishonest, fueling anger, and trying to re-enforce the lie that Republicans are racist and want to keep blacks down (via not voting). I will ask again, prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home. Not that it might benefit them, but that they truly do not want black people to vote.
 
That proves nothing. Your statement doesn't prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home on election day. You may suspect them of it, but you can't prove it. Neither should anyone make accusations like that without proof.

And? Yes this is how elections can be decided, but that doesn't mean Republicans want blacks to stay home and not vote. Obama is race baiting and trying to anger blacks by pushing the lie that Republicans are racist/

Yes, but you have failed to prove Obama correct and me false. As I said earlier. It may benefit Republicans if blacks stayed home, but that doesn't mean they necessarily want that. You can't prove that the Republican party as a whole stated that they want blacks to not vote.

But you can't prove that.... It may benefit them but you can't prove that they have said "Blacks should stay home." Obama made a statement as a truth and said Republicans don't want blacks (among other Democrat voting groups) to stay home. He based that not of proof or evidence, but based on the notion that Republicans would benefit. Equally then, Democrats must want white males and Christians to stay home. It's true because it would benefit the Democrats...:doh

Are you not focusing on what is being said? I said Republicans would benefit from blacks staying home as around 90% of them vote Democrat. What I said is that Obama can't prove it, and his statement is classic race baiting.

Obama is being a race baiter. He is trying to enforce the lie that Republicans are racists and hate black people and don't want them to vote. He's trying to fire up blacks to vote by telling them his opposition doesn't want them to vote at all, thus using anger to motivate them.

He was saying to a crowed that Republicans do not want groups that are a traditional voting block for Democrats to vote. He is trying to rally them to vote through feeding anger and race baiting ;) He posts an unprovable statement as true simply based on the fact that Republicans may want to have a disproportional election because it would benefit them. What about those who want to have a fair race for Democracy's sake and have everyone vote regardless of traditional blocks?

No, I am an independent and I was actually considering voting Democrat in the next election.

We can go back and forth, but you are the one being dishonest. All I stated is that Obama is baiting people to vote through anger. I asked you to prove that Republicans have stated that they want blacks, unions, and traditional Democrat voting blocks to stay home. Obama has stated a lie based on feeling and not proof. Obama is being dishonest, fueling anger, and trying to re-enforce the lie that Republicans are racist and want to keep blacks down (via not voting). I will ask again, prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home. Not that it might benefit them, but that they truly do not want black people to vote.

so.....republicans want dems to come out in force? lol!
 
That proves nothing. Your statement doesn't prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home on election day. You may suspect them of it, but you can't prove it. Neither should anyone make accusations like that without proof.

And? Yes this is how elections can be decided, but that doesn't mean Republicans want blacks to stay home and not vote. Obama is race baiting and trying to anger blacks by pushing the lie that Republicans are racist.

Yes, but you have failed to prove Obama correct and me false. As I said earlier. It may benefit Republicans if blacks stayed home, but that doesn't mean they necessarily want that. You can't prove that the Republican party as a whole stated that they want blacks to not vote.

But you can't prove that.... It may benefit them but you can't prove that they have said "Blacks should stay home." Obama made a statement as a truth and said Republicans don't want blacks (among other Democrat voting groups) to stay home. He based that not of proof or evidence, but based on the notion that Republicans would benefit. Equally then, Democrats must want white males and Christians to stay home. It's true because it would benefit the Democrats...:doh

Are you not focusing on what is being said? I said Republicans would benefit from blacks staying home as around 90% of them vote Democrat. What I said is that Obama can't prove it, and his statement is classic race baiting.

Obama is being a race baiter. He is trying to enforce the lie that Republicans are racists and hate black people and don't want them to vote. He's trying to fire up blacks to vote by telling them his opposition doesn't want them to vote at all, thus using anger to motivate them.

He was saying to a crowed that Republicans do not want groups that are a traditional voting block for Democrats to vote. He is trying to rally them to vote through feeding anger and race baiting ;) He posts an unprovable statement as true simply based on the fact that Republicans may want to have a disproportional election because it would benefit them. What about those who want to have a fair race for Democracy's sake and have everyone vote regardless of traditional blocks?

No, I am an independent and I was actually considering voting Democrat in the next election.

We can go back and forth, but you are the one being dishonest. All I stated is that Obama is baiting people to vote through anger. I asked you to prove that Republicans have stated that they want blacks, unions, and traditional Democrat voting blocks to stay home. Obama has stated a lie based on feeling and not proof. Obama is being dishonest, fueling anger, and trying to re-enforce the lie that Republicans are racist and want to keep blacks down (via not voting). I will ask again, prove that Republicans want blacks to stay home. Not that it might benefit them, but that they truly do not want black people to vote.

Your entire post is refuted by this question:

Do Republicans want the Democratic base to stay home?
 
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Republicans counting on blacks staying home....
Democrats counting on blacks staying stupid... how many decades will blacks keep falling for the dems lies of "we are the party that has your best interest at heart"? If that were the case...why haven't the dems done anything to address the many issues plaguing the black communities?


keep em down, keep em dependent, keep em voting dem
 
Republicans counting on blacks staying home....
Democrats counting on blacks staying stupid... how many decades will blacks keep falling for the dems lies of "we are the party that has your best interest at heart"? If that were the case...why haven't the dems done anything to address the many issues plaguing the black communities?

keep em down, keep em dependent, keep em voting dem

Yes, yes... we know...

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy is a Republican Party method of winning Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting opposition to the cultural upheaval of the 1960s/70s and in reaction to the changing economics of the South.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Republican Strategist said:
From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.[3]
 
I think the fact that Obama mentioned blacks (race) brings up race bating. I think Obama and Democrats should be held accountable for their race baiting. Instead all they do is fingerprint and call Republicans racist (not all Dems, just the far left partisans). Obama is out of line to lie like this.

So does this mean that mentioning any demographic is baiting? Could one be poorbaiting, redneckbaiting, christianbaiting?

If not, what is the difference.
 
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