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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

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    No it's not Being against the homosexual agenda is not a bad thing. It's a belief, and from my point of view being pro-homosexual agenda is a bad thing. It's a personal belief.
    Just like being racist is a personal belief, and just like believing killing people in the name of God is a good thing is a belief. Just because it is a personal belief doesn't make it right.
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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

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    Just like being racist is a personal belief, and just like believing killing people in the name of God is a good thing is a belief. Just because it is a personal belief doesn't make it right.
    So believing homosexuality is a sin and not wanting it to have a legal status as marriage makes someone equal to a murderer and a racist? I don't hate gays, one of my good friends from childhood is gay. However, I believe it's wrong, not marriage, and immoral and should not be treated as such.
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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Most get attacked mercilessly for being against homosexuality. Being a 20 year old college kid, like 80% of people I know my age are pro-gay, and being anti-gay will almost always result in persecution.
    I don't think it's a "pro-gay" attitude or something, it's more like minding your own business. It doesn't matter if someone is gay or not, and it's none of our business if they are. People are who they are, and in this country so long as you aren't infringing upon the rights of others, you're free to be as you are. Instead of getting on your soap box and preaching this or that, I'd say mind your own damned beeswax. Some one is gay, fine. WTF is it to you? How does it negatively impact you? It doesn't. Them being gay is no detriment to your life, liberty, or property. It's not like they're forcing you to be gay. If they were, then you'd have a point. Till then, you don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Plus it isn't PC, people treat being anti-gay as a bad thing.
    Probably because of the ignorance inherent to the anti-gay mentality. You may think that it's "immoral" to be gay. So don't be gay. But others may think it is immoral to be anti-gay and that it should not be treated as moral. There's no point in singling out a particular section of our population and rallying against them so long as they aren't infringing upon the rights and liberties of other people. If they aren't hurting anyone, then they're free to do as they like. This sort of bigotry and intolerance towards others is a bit Dark Ages if you ask me.
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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So believing homosexuality is a sin and not wanting it to have a legal status as marriage makes someone equal to a murderer and a racist? I don't hate gays, one of my good friends from childhood is gay. However, I believe it's wrong, not marriage, and immoral and should not be treated as such.
    yet, you believe he is immoral and should not be treated equally. some friend, dig.

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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

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    So believing homosexuality is a sin and not wanting it to have a legal status as marriage makes someone equal to a murderer and a racist? I don't hate gays, one of my good friends from childhood is gay. However, I believe it's wrong, not marriage, and immoral and should not be treated as such.
    Well maybe not a murderer (depends on how far you take it). but definitely equal to racist.
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    Well maybe not a murderer (depends on how far you take it). but definitely equal to racist.
    Can't argue with that. I guess everyone who supports traditional marriage is equal to a racist

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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

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    Can't argue with that. I guess everyone who supports traditional marriage is equal to a racist

    Give me a break
    Basically yes. Can't really argue that.
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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Can't argue with that. I guess everyone who supports traditional marriage is equal to a racist

    Give me a break
    In a way, yes. Because of the bigoted nature of the ideology; they seek to suppress the rights of others in order to maintain their fantasized "morals". And thus they seek to impress upon everyone else their own morals going so far as to even solicit the government to uphold their bigotry and intolerance.

    I hope that one day we emerge from this second Dark Ages and that humans can once again use their brains instead of their emotions to enact law and justly govern by the rights and liberties of all the People; not just certain sectors who are deemed "moral" by an outraged few.
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    In a way, yes. Because of the bigoted nature of the ideology; they seek to suppress the rights of others in order to maintain their fantasized "morals". And thus they seek to impress upon everyone else their own morals going so far as to even solicit the government to uphold their bigotry and intolerance.
    Sexualities don't have any inherent rights. Bestiality and pedophilia don't have rights simply because people preform actions in line with them. Any law is "bigoted." We are bigoted against child molesters (even when children consent), we are bigoted against murderers and thieves. This is why I'm glad Paladino spoke out. People shout bigot, racist, hater, and all that crap at social conservatives all the time. It's dishonest and frankly, very annoying. Most who do this are bigoted against Christians but are blind to their hatred and justify it as "standing up for the oppressed."
    I hope that one day we emerge from this second Dark Ages and that humans can once again use their brains instead of their emotions to enact law and justly govern by the rights and liberties of all the People; not just certain sectors who are deemed "moral" by an outraged few.
    This is why I hate debating issues regarding homosexuality. People illogically make comparisons, act out of emotion, make crappy generalizations, and make personal attacks against social conservatives. Being a Bible believing Christian isn't "living in the dark ages." Supporting traditional marriage and believing homosexuality is a sin is not equal to racism. People who are against the homosexual agenda aren't bigots. It's shallow, and it's highly annoying. This is why I love Paladino for speaking out despite illogical attacks and bland comparisons.
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    Re: New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Sexualities don't have any inherent rights. Bestiality and pedophilia don't have rights simply because people preform actions in line with them. Any law is "bigoted." We are bigoted against child molesters (even when children consent), we are bigoted against murderers and thieves. This is why I'm glad Paladino spoke out. People shout bigot, racist, hater, and all that crap at social conservatives all the time. It's dishonest and frankly, very annoying. Most who do this are bigoted against Christians but are blind to their hatred and justify it as "standing up for the oppressed."
    The difference between homosexuality, and bestiality, and pedophiles, is that homosexuality is between two consenting adults, the other two aren't. It's a bad strawman. Also, why do social conservatives always hold on to the negative traditions of the past?


    This is why I hate debating issues regarding homosexuality. People illogically make comparisons, act out of emotion, make crappy generalizations, and make personal attacks against social conservatives. Being a Bible believing Christian isn't "living in the dark ages." Supporting traditional marriage and believing homosexuality is a sin is not equal to racism. People who are against the homosexual agenda aren't bigots. It's shallow, and it's highly annoying. This is why I love Paladino for speaking out despite illogical attacks and bland comparisons.
    Just like your making illogical comparisons in this section of your post? I'm a Christian, yet when I read the Bible I got a little different story on this issue. Of course I didn't take it at face value, and looked into the history, context, and proper translation of the few passages that mention the subject. I could go on, but it's really off-topic, but what I'm getting at is that assuming that all Christians are against homosexuality is just plain wrong.
    Also, I don't get how being against SSM is "supporting" traditional marriage, it's not like heterosexual marriage will go away if we allow SSM. Straight people are still getting married in Canada just fine.
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