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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Abe Lincoln, JFK and our Founding Fathers come to mind.
    LOL, yeah, you are right, Abe Lincoln who went to war to save the union never did anything proactive. Our Founders never did anything proactive except found a nation. JFK cut taxes and was a economic conservative but that was about all he did and I was a young JFK supporter.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    You won't be. Thankfully your generation is dying off soon so we can make the world a better place. The slave owners of the 19th century have died off. The Jim Crow boys of the 20th century have died off (Rob Byrd finally kicked the bucket). And your generation is next pops.
    LOL, aw, that liberal compassion, got to love it!

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yeah, you are right, Abe Lincoln who went to war to save the union never did anything proactive. Our Founders never did anything proactive except found a nation. JFK cut taxes and was a economic conservative but that was about all he did and I was a young JFK supporter.
    Your so terrible at reading comprehension its not even funny. You said liberals don't do anything proactive and I pointed out these liberals did do things proactive. You just proved my point by agreeing! What are you going to do now, try to tell me Abe, JFK, and the Founding Fathers were conservatives? Lol. I'm done with you. Don't respond to my post anymore.
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    A MUST READ. Don't even read the opinions. Look at the empirical facts. Look at the numbers and tell me Pelosi did all this....

    So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Here's a short paragraph to give you an idea what economist/professor/pulitzer prize winner David Cay Johnston concludes of the Bush tax cuts.

    "The tax cuts did not spur investment. Job growth in the George W. Bush years was one-seventh that of the Clinton years. Nixon and Ford did better than Bush on jobs. Wages fell during the last administration. Average incomes fell. The number of Americans in poverty, as officially measured, hit a 16-year high last year of 43.6 million, though a National Academy of Sciences study says that the real poverty figure is closer to 51 million. Food banks are swamped. Foreclosure signs are everywhere. Americans and their governments are drowning in debt. And at the nexus of tax and healthcare, Republican ideas perpetuate a cruel and immoral system that rations healthcare -- while consuming every sixth dollar in the economy and making businesses, especially small businesses, less efficient and less profitable."

    Obama's fault what?
    This really is an incredible stance to take. Bush saw a record number of quarters with job growth, unemployment in the mid 4s (considered full employment by economists), record quarters with GDP growth, increased tax revenues, and deficits less than a quarter of what Obama has been running. This was with 9/11, the tech bubble burst, two wars, and lasted up until Pelosi/Reid had run congress for almost a year.

    Meanwhile, Obama/Reid/Pelosi have increased the debt by more in four years than Bush did in all eight. Obama's first year deficit dwarfed Bush's first 7 years of deficits. Unemployment is steady in the mid 9s, and stimulus hasn't done a thing to help. 2/3rds of the market recovery is the Fed Reserve buying up TARP and Obama is shutting down a record number of small banks each year.

    I think it is a ridiculous premise that Bush had 8 great years which did nothing but set up for Obama's two terrible years. That is a very simplistic and false way of looking at this.
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Your so terrible at reading comprehension its not even funny. You said liberals don't do anything proactive and I pointed out these liberals did do things proactive. You just proved my point by agreeing! What are you going to do now, try to tell me Abe, JFK, and the Founding Fathers were conservatives? Lol. I'm done with you. Don't respond to my post anymore.
    You don't want me to respond, then stop posting. Define liberal for me so we are on the same page. Obviously I have a different definition than you. No way would I ever call Lincoln and our Founding Fathers liberals. JFK was a social liberal and an economic conservative. Today's liberals don't have the guts of either Lincoln or our Founding Fathers and on economic issues the guts of JFK.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't want me to respond, then stop posting. Define liberal for me so we are on the same page. Obviously I have a different definition than you. No way would I ever call Lincoln and our Founding Fathers liberals. JFK was a social liberal and an economic conservative. Today's liberals don't have the guts of either Lincoln or our Founding Fathers and on economic issues the guts of JFK.
    liberalism-the uneasy feeling that somewhere, someplace someone is getting by without government help



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yeah, you are right, Abe Lincoln who went to war to save the union never did anything proactive. Our Founders never did anything proactive except found a nation. JFK cut taxes and was a economic conservative but that was about all he did and I was a young JFK supporter.
    Actually it was LBJ who signed the law, JFK was DEAD because he had been assassinated in Dallas, Texas 11/22/63. But it wasn't actually a tax cut, it was a restructuring of the tax code much of the legislation was meant to cut loopholes the tax code. Am I to assume that you think the top marginal tax rate should be 70%???


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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    This really is an incredible stance to take. Bush saw a record number of quarters with job growth, unemployment in the mid 4s (considered full employment by economists), record quarters with GDP growth, increased tax revenues, and deficits less than a quarter of what Obama has been running. This was with 9/11, the tech bubble burst, two wars, and lasted up until Pelosi/Reid had run congress for almost a year.
    You've got to be kidding me, Bush had the worst track record on jobs. Check the actual numbers, they are not seasonally adjusted as you may have seen from other posters here at DP.

    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ


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