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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

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    You really have a problem with the war. Do you have any first hand experience on the validity of being in Iraq? As I have stated on a number of forums, I had three family members in Iraq and all said we did the right thing. Why are they wrong?

    The fact is that most of the attackers were indeed Saudi's but there is no evidence at all that the Saudis trained them and supported them according to the 9/11 Commission.

    Key points in the 9/11 Report

    • The Saudi government did not fund the 19 hijackers.
    • Relatives of bin Laden were not allowed to fly out of the country until after air traffic was allowed to move freely after it was grounded following the attacks.
    • Bush did not know about the specific threat beforehand.
    The 9/11 commission report stated there was no connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, and the CIA reported that the WMD programs were disbanded after the first gulf war. If you believe there were legitimate reasons to invade Iraq I have some beach front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you. The conflict has resulted in 1 million deaths so far. 1 MILLION! I find it interesting how many people who support the war refer to themselves as Christians. I don't think Jesus would support that war if he were alive today.

    And let me add, its very easy to support destruction and death when one is sitting thousands of miles away in the safety and comfort of ones own home.
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Mohammed Atta trained in Iraq. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah and Fatah, FUNDED From IRAQ, Al Qaeda Terrorist Camp in Iraq, but apparently Saddam was simply a VICTIM Of the West's Imperialism, right and not a terrorist?
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    The 9/11 commission report stated there was no connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, and the CIA reported that the WMD programs were disbanded after the first gulf war. If you believe there were legitimate reasons to invade Iraq I have some beach front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you. The conflict has resulted in 1 million deaths so far. 1 MILLION! I find it interesting how many people who support the war refer to themselves as Christians. I don't think Jesus would support that war if he were alive today.

    And let me add, its very easy to support destruction and death when one is sitting thousands of miles away in the safety and comfort of ones own home.
    As I pointed out I had three family members serve in Iraq, one was a Marine and two in the Army, two of the three were in the field and one was in military intelligence that had access to some top secret data. What is your expertise in the area? All three said we did the right thing.

    I can tell you it is really comfortable it is sitting at home worried whether or not we will get that phone call that no family wants to get so you really don't have a clue what you are talking about as usual.
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As I pointed out I had three family members serve in Iraq, one was a Marine and two in the Army, two of the three were in the field and one was in military intelligence that had access to some top secret data. What is your expertise in the area? All three said we did the right thing.

    I can tell you it is really comfortable it is sitting at home worried whether or not we will get that phone call that no family wants to get so you really don't have a clue what you are talking about as usual.
    So you have access to top secret info via a relative? Does he refute the 9/11 commisson findings?
    I have had relatives there as well. I doubt that the WMD would or could be kept secret from the public, mostly because Bush wanted to find them and prove to the world that his cause was just, instead of just revenge. It is amazing the level of denial on that issue.
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As I pointed out I had three family members serve in Iraq, one was a Marine and two in the Army, two of the three were in the field and one was in military intelligence that had access to some top secret data...All three said we did the right thing.
    So your source is your family members? Lol. What if during our debates about the Bush tax cuts I said that my family members are accountants and that is how I know the tax cuts were harmful to our economy? You'd laugh at me, call me names and tell me to use a source. Well, my source on this is the 9/11 commission reports and the CIA. You citing your family makes your argument terrible. BTW I have just as much family who served. One is a West Point grad who is in Afghanistan right now. Another is in Iraq right now. The others returned home last year. I know what waiting for calls is like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is your expertise in the area?
    Currently working on a Master's Degree in Justice Studies with a concentration in Homeland Security. And from what we've learned? All of the supposed reasons for the war were illegitimate. Federal law enforcement, very specific counterterrorism operations, intelligence and diplomacy most adequately suppress terrorism. Dropping bombs on countries with very little if any terrorist affiliations is counter productive, overly broad and extremely expensive.

    Again, I ask you, what would Jesus do?
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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    So your source is your family members? Lol. What if during our debates about the Bush tax cuts I said that my family members are accountants and that is how I know the tax cuts were harmful to our economy? You'd laugh at me, call me names and tell me to use a source. Well, my source on this is the 9/11 commission reports and the CIA. You citing your family makes your argument terrible. BTW I have just as much family who served. One is a West Point grad who is in Afghanistan right now. Another is in Iraq right now. The others returned home last year. I know what waiting for calls is like.



    Currently working on a Master's Degree in Justice Studies with a concentration in Homeland Security. And from what we've learned? All of the supposed reasons for the war were illegitimate. Federal law enforcement, very specific counterterrorism operations, intelligence and diplomacy most adequately suppress terrorism. Dropping bombs on countries with very little if any terrorist affiliations is counter productive, overly broad and extremely expensive.

    Again, I ask you, what would Jesus do?
    I ask you again what is your experience regarding what was going on in Iraq. Your "opinion" about Iraq comes from what you read, mine came from people that were there. I will take personal experience over your opinions any time. I can post quotes from the Democrat leadership prior to Bush taking office and after but it really doesn't matter today. You aren't going to change.

    It serves no purpose to continue this discussion as it really has nothing to do with the thread topic. Nothing is going to change your mind nor is anything going to change mine. It is the past. "Your" President continued to the Bush Iraq policy. If you want to go down this route again then start another thread.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    So you have access to top secret info via a relative? Does he refute the 9/11 commisson findings?
    I have had relatives there as well. I doubt that the WMD would or could be kept secret from the public, mostly because Bush wanted to find them and prove to the world that his cause was just, instead of just revenge. It is amazing the level of denial on that issue.
    There were many reasons for going to war as the resolution passed in October 2002 stated, but yes there was a WMD program in Iraq and ready to be reconstituted. More importantly was the support for terrorism and the brutal oppression of his own people. The mass graves uncovered, the physical abuse of his citizens, and the brutal rape and incest by his sons were examples of that brutal regime. Troops did find WMD but not to the level that intelligence indicated, but according to my nephew the abuses alone and the murder of his people, the threat of reconstituting that program, the support he gave terrorists was justification for removing him. Obama has taken a victory and is turning it into a defeat, JMO.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So right now, today, under those cuts, we have high tax revenues? Is that what you're saying?
    what I am saying is that your scheme for punishing the rich should be termed what it is and your pathetic attempts to justify class warfare in the guise of claiming deficit reduction are specious



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    What does "yearly" cost of a war have to do with it? All of the money spent in Iraq was wasted. How conservative is that?
    We have issues at home that are more important than yet another futile effort to bring democracy to some sand pit in the middle east. Besides, there already is democracy there, in Israel, and it doesn't impress the Arab world one bit.
    While we rebuild what we destroyed over there, our own infrastucture is suffering. We need to employ OUR people in OUR country taking care of our own needs..
    wasted? that is a silly claim unless you can see the landscape of the middle east 20-30-40- years down the road. But we know what the Great SOciety did. It created more and more dependent suckers of the public teat who breed at high rates and create more and more and more dependent addicts to government handouts. Many of those people are creating most of those doing hard time in our prisons as well. So the dependency mentality has created an ever growing cancer that costs more and more money



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    So your source is your family members? Lol. What if during our debates about the Bush tax cuts I said that my family members are accountants and that is how I know the tax cuts were harmful to our economy? You'd laugh at me, call me names and tell me to use a source. Well, my source on this is the 9/11 commission reports and the CIA. You citing your family makes your argument terrible. BTW I have just as much family who served. One is a West Point grad who is in Afghanistan right now. Another is in Iraq right now. The others returned home last year. I know what waiting for calls is like.



    Currently working on a Master's Degree in Justice Studies with a concentration in Homeland Security. And from what we've learned? All of the supposed reasons for the war were illegitimate. Federal law enforcement, very specific counterterrorism operations, intelligence and diplomacy most adequately suppress terrorism. Dropping bombs on countries with very little if any terrorist affiliations is counter productive, overly broad and extremely expensive.

    Again, I ask you, what would Jesus do?
    OMG is this hilarious. I just read your little mantra at the bottom of your post and that sort of says it all

    a student who is studying what? Justice? LOL, and whatever school you are at needs to give you a refund based on clear bias



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