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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What unconstitutional spending are you speaking of? The war in Iraq, Afghanistan?
    read the tenth amendment and get back to me on where in the constitution welfare, medicare and medicaid is authorized

    You do have a law degree don't you?



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    read the tenth amendment and get back to me on where in the constitution welfare, medicare and medicaid is authorized

    You do have a law degree don't you?
    Where is DADT Constitutional? Or where is defining marriage Constitutional? Where was denying women the vote Constitutional in a pre-19th Amendment Constitution. Thats an interesting one because its impossible to find a justification for it in the text.

    The Constitution doesn't specifically allow for these things and many other items yet they exist and are constitutional, or were considered constitutional for a long time. The Constitution doesn't specifically allow for welfare, medicare, or medicaid, but the judicial branch hasn't struck them down.

    You want to keep playing because I can find a million things you like about the government that isn't specifically allowed in the Constitution

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Double post.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What unconstitutional spending are you speaking of? The war in Iraq, Afghanistan?
    Exactly what was unconstitutional about the spending authorized by the House and Senate for use in Iraq and Afghanistan are you babbling about?

    You have failed once again to make an intelligent point but then I have come to expect no more.

    All liberals who want to pay a higher tax I say go ahead pay your heads off. Oh you did already.

    For the thousandth time Tax cuts alone will never fix any economy with corresponding reductions in the crazy over spending binge the Trifecta of Doom has us in.
    Last edited by Councilman; 10-19-10 at 10:42 PM.

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Where is DADT Constitutional? Or where is defining marriage Constitutional? Where was denying women the vote Constitutional in a pre-19th Amendment Constitution. Thats an interesting one because its impossible to find a justification for it in the text.

    The Constitution doesn't specifically allow for these things and many other items yet they exist and are constitutional, or were considered constitutional for a long time. The Constitution doesn't specifically allow for welfare, medicare, or medicaid, but the judicial branch hasn't struck them down.

    You want to keep playing because I can find a million things you like about the government that isn't specifically allowed in the Constitution
    find one

    the commander and chief can impose DADT last I checked

    I don't care-I think its a stupid rule.

    the judicial branch was coopted under FDR and until he threatened to pack the court, most of his New Deal was being struck down

    find say 10 things that I like that isn't allowed by the constitution

    I doubt you have the education to even understand the constitution enough to do that



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    find one

    the commander and chief can impose DADT last I checked

    I don't care-I think its a stupid rule.

    the judicial branch was coopted under FDR and until he threatened to pack the court, most of his New Deal was being struck down

    find say 10 things that I like that isn't allowed by the constitution

    I doubt you have the education to even understand the constitution enough to do that
    I can't even define 10 of your positions. But the point stands, stuff you support such as DADT or the gov't defining marriage is NOT found in the Constitution. I'm not talking about FDR, i never mentioned it don't change the topic.

    So tell me, how are these things Constitutional when they aren't specifically mentioned? I'll even use you're exact same question:
    read (Constitution) and get back to me on where in the constitution DADT and defining marriage are authorized

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I can't even define 10 of your positions. But the point stands, stuff you support such as DADT or the gov't defining marriage is NOT found in the Constitution. I'm not talking about FDR, i never mentioned it don't change the topic.

    So tell me, how are these things Constitutional when they aren't specifically mentioned? I'll even use you're exact same question:
    read (Constitution) and get back to me on where in the constitution DADT and defining marriage are authorized
    lets see If I can give you a quick constitutional lesson

    1) DADT is a rule imposed by the CiC--the Constitution gives the CIC such powers. I don't agree with it but I agree it is power that the president has

    2) gay marriage is a state issue thus the US constitution really isn't at issue unless it violates a constitutional right

    again I don't care, if gays want to marry that's fine with me.

    you aren't doing to well on diagnosing my positions

    that million is looking rather hard to reach



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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets see If I can give you a quick constitutional lesson

    1) DADT is a rule imposed by the CiC--the Constitution gives the CIC such powers. I don't agree with it but I agree it is power that the president has
    Actually, the president does not have those powers since the power resides in the hands of Congress in Article I Section VIII Clause XIV.

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Exactly what was unconstitutional about the spending authorized by the House and Senate for use in Iraq and Afghanistan are you babbling about?
    Don't blame me if you don't understand what I wrote.


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    Re: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you willing to pay 91% of your next dollar

    50% of your next dollar

    if you are not willing to pay the top rate than you are dishonest

    if you are you are lying

    with a flat tax the more you make the more you pay but it prevents people like you voting up my taxes without YOU suffering any more taxation
    I repeat, I have no problem paying my tax, which is more than those below me or people above me paying more. I see no problem here. I can't be any clearer.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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